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Kilroy was here, but who was he?

Article about: WHO WAS KILROY? He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington , DC . It's back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. A bit of trivia - even if you never

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    WHO WAS KILROY?


    He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington , DC . It's back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. A bit of trivia - even if you never heard of Kilroy before.

    For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history.

    Anyone born in 1913 to about 1950, is familiar with Kilroy. We didn't know why, but we had lapel pins with his nose hanging over the label and the top of his face above his nose with his hands hanging over the label. No one knew why he was so well known, but we all joined in!

    So who the heck was Kilroy?

    In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America ," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax , Massachusetts , had evidence of his identity.

    Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy . His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark.

    Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.

    One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his check mark on each job he inspected, but added 'KILROY WAS HERE' in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message.

    Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks. Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With the war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced.

    His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific.

    Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo . To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that someone named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived.

    Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest , the Statue of Liberty, the underside of the Arc de Triomphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.

    As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo!

    In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its' first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"

    To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax , Massachusetts .

    So, now you know.

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    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    what a most interesting story,thank you for this gem ,i love this kind of information thanks again, best from george

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    what a most interesting story,thank you for this gem ,i love this kind of information thanks again, best from george

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    Good story!....
    It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.



    I'm Spartacus, not really i'm Paul!...

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    As Wikipedia will tell you, here in Australia he was known as FOO. We were still scribbling it as teenagers in the early 70's - FOO seemed to pop up everywhere ( and as he originated in WW1 we beat the yanks too ....nyani nyani nya nya!!!! )

    Dan
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    As an added bit of trivia related to Nicks post about him being called Chad in the UK, legend has it that his name was the source of the name of the "Chad" arm badge of the 17th/21st Lancers and the use of the term dates from the same period.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Odd. I was just thinking about Kilroy today. At my last job i marked Kilroy Was Here by the urinal. Nice.

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    I've seen photos of Aussies in France aboard troop trains with "Foo was here" and the face peering over the wall scrawled in chalk

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    Great story about how this iconic cartoon character came to be.
    I also remember drawing him at school in the 1960's.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    great Story. I never knew where it came from. Use to see pictures of it written on tanks and vehicles.
    Thanks for sharing this information.


    John
    I specialize in M1 carbines and Lugers.

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