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HJ M4/44 Belt and Buckle

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    Hey guys,

    Need your help here. Although I own a handful, I'm not a buckle guy.

    Picked this up as part of a package deal today.

    To me it looks OK. But would love your thoughts on the condition and maker? Is it a fairly common maker?

    Buckle is M4/44. Paul Cramer??

    Belt looks to be almost like patent leather. Or was there a coating on it? No make marks or dates are visible.

    While a bit stiff for being rolled up for 70+ years it still retains a very high gloss and you can see a few spots where it looks like the top layer (the "Patent" in Patent leather LoL), appears to have chipped off.

    As noted, I got it in a bundle with a Fire Police visor so hard to pinpoint the cost but I would say it cost around $100 for the set. Any good?

    Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

    Michael

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    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Hello,

    the buckle is a nickel over steel Paul Cramer in nice condition .

    Belt is a Wehrmacht parade belt and maches not with this buckle .
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Thanks Marcus,

    I thought the belt looked weird for this buckle. But all is not lost. Now I have a nice parade belt. Just have to find the HEER parade buckle.

    Is the Cramer a common maker?

    what condition would you consider this buckle? I know it is not mint. Fair? Good?

    Regards,

    Michael
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Michael, buckle is very nice and in very good condition IMO, you can see a little wear on the front where the brass has come through the nickel, other than that a very nice buckle indeed. In ref to Cramer buckles these are not really hard to find marked like this so nothing rare or hard to come by, but again a really nice buckle, have a look through this thread and it will show you types of belts to go with it

    Buckle and Belt characteristics, originals & fakes
    Ben

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    Thanks Ben. I'm not worried or trying to seek a rare one (I'll leave that to you guys). Just want to know what I have so i really appreciate the link and feedback

    Michael
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    it a v/nice one.

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