Two HJ buckles for opinion

[Rescue190]

I have had these two HJ buckles in the collection for a while and would like an better idea on the approximate date. I am presenting them as original. Please help if I am wrong. I have been fooled by lesser items.
First one is a silver steel die struck single piece.
Second one is a aluminum, Zinc? single piece.
Please forgive my ignorance if the descriptions are not correct.
Any help or general opinions are welcome and appreciated.
John

[Wewelsburg]

I have a guess here. The first one is a early nickel silver and is a common buckle but the maker marks a not that common. Assmann used a lot of marks. You can compare here:
HJ/DJ Assmann Variations


The other one is a later war buckle and it is made of zinc.

[Rescue190]

Thank you for info and the link. The the one I have is shown in the 7th or 8th example. I am also trying to get an approximate date range for this style and maker. I am assuming 33 to 37 date range.
John

[BOB COLEMAN]

moved to the HJ/DJ buckle sub forum