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Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

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    Question Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    I was interested if anyone had an opinion or some information on these two pieces. I'm pretty sure the Red Cross pin is good, however I am curious as it is not maker marked like the others I have seen. The Hitler Youth patch with the RZM tag looks original to me, however I have not seen a patch like this before and am not sure if it is authentic or what it is for. The Red Cross pin was selling for $40 and the Hitler Youth patch for $25.

    Thanks for the help!
    -Adam
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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    HJ insignia is fine.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    Hi Adam

    Your sleeve patch is a good one as Ade says.

    It was worn by ther Deutsche Jungvolk.
    Here is a quick link
    Deutsches Jungvolk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I have one you can compare with

    Cheers

    Nick
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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    The pin and the patch are original, the last one present a correct RZM tag on red color, specific for all HJ material.
    The Big letter A is the price; the code A4 is the group of production and the number add, ex. 427 on Wolfspear patch, is the code of productor.
    The last alphanumeric codes M4 & F4 and the black number are the code of the RZM tag.

    @ Wolfspear: if you desire I can show the name, address & City of your tag factory.

    Thanks Gentlemens for your time and attentions

    Cheers
    Hope you understand, I apologize for My bad English, but if you have question don't hesitate to contact me.

    Thanks for your attention

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    [QUOTE=Gew44;148063]The pin and the patch are original, the last one present a correct RZM tag on red color, specific for all HJ material.
    The Big letter A is the price; the code A4 is the group of production and the number add, ex. 427 on Wolfspear patch, is the code of productor.
    The last alphanumeric codes M4 & F4 and the black number are the code of the RZM tag.

    @ Wolfspear: if you desire I can show the name, address & City of your tag factory.


    That would be good Massimo , thanks

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    A4 = Textilabzeichenhersteller Gruppe

    427 = Lucas & Borsteher, Lenneper Strasse 39/50, Wuppertal -Oberbarmen

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    Thanks Massimo for all the great info on these patches

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    Quote by Gew44 View Post
    A4 = Textilabzeichenhersteller Gruppe

    427 = Lucas & Borsteher, Lenneper Strasse 39/50, Wuppertal -Oberbarmen

    Cheers
    mines is also 427 and most of the unissued oberbann 1 sigs are from 427.

    nick the saris book gives this list of makers from the rzm ticket codes.

    heres my DJ runes, i must update the pic as i now have the white rune on yellow only two more to go
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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    Great work Ewan Two more ? Are they scarce?

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Default Re: Deutsches Rote Kreuz Pin & Hitler Jugend Patch w/Rune: Authenticity & Identification Help

    yes nick 5 black and 6 white are quite scarce mate, dealers also charge crazy prices for the oberbann 6 as its also the exact same white as N.P.E.A rune mind you i wouldnt like to try and find 2,3,4 again as i have been very lucky with these as they all turned up at once more or less

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