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HJ Raute in Blue.

Article about: Hi Chaps. Is this HJ Raute in blue real? Its certainly nicely marked Otto Hoffmann and Ges Gesch to the reverse, but no RZM markings. Would appreciate your thoughts chaps. Cheers Mark

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    Many collectors, myself included years ago, have been taken on these odd colored H.J. badges. Pure fantasy items. Do a search of this forum for that maker mark "Otto Hoffman" and "colored H.J. member pins" and you will find a lot of examples of these odd colored badges almost always marked with this maker mark. Jo has shown a period advertisement from Otto Hoffman, but the advertisement only mentions cloth items not metal insignia. To my knowledge there has yet to be shown any mention of a color variance in the H.J. member badges in period regulations or documents, and I doubt there ever will be one found as it just does not exist.

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    Thanks everyone for all your comments and knowledge its really appreciated.
    The guy that owns it can have it back.
    Cheers

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    I shall put mine under the hammer.

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    bad fakes, old otto hoffers fake pins originaly had coffin shaped pin pates but this was caught onto so they done a bit better round ones and took a few thousand more collectors, found in translucent enamel and solid opaque, the faker never thought to research what the Real Otto Hoffmann made! which wasnt badges but cloth items i believe!

    been around for years so are found damaged and look ''old'' proof that all that shines isnt gold

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    Quote by FrankBooth View Post
    Many collectors, myself included years ago, have been taken on these odd colored H.J. badges. Pure fantasy items. Do a search of this forum for that maker mark "Otto Hoffman" and "colored H.J. member pins" and you will find a lot of examples of these odd colored badges almost always marked with this maker mark. Jo has shown a period advertisement from Otto Hoffman, but the advertisement only mentions cloth items not metal insignia. To my knowledge there has yet to be shown any mention of a color variance in the H.J. member badges in period regulations or documents, and I doubt there ever will be one found as it just does not exist.
    oops i really should read all replys first lol

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