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early böker hj original and cleaned death or craft piece?

Article about: hi, here is my new hj knife Unfortunately strongly cleaned is original or tinkered the knife? fake motto or original? blade is shorter. HJ Diamond wobbles. scabbard burnished with buckling 2

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    Default early böker hj original and cleaned death or craft piece?

    hi,

    here is my new hj knife
    Unfortunately strongly cleaned
    is original or tinkered the knife?
    fake motto or original?
    blade is shorter.
    HJ Diamond wobbles.
    scabbard burnished with bucklingOriginal burnished?
    2 for comparison and a link Hitler Youth Knife
    give back?
    keep?

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    thank you guys!

    Greetings and sorry for my bad english!

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    I think its a keeper.

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    what do the experts?
    tomorrow I can also make more photos in daylight.

    regards

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    Max,


    Some of my thoughts are, rivets are not riveted over properly & they are thicker than the solid nickle genuine type, also the griplates do not fit correctly, scabbard looks re-blued, motto looks different i.e thicker letters but could be ok,


    if it was mine i would send it back for a refund as it has been messed/repaired with in the past, you have a nice genuine unmessed with Boker hj knife anyway & this one is just not right.



    Regards Mac 66.

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    here by Daylight:
    rivets are magnetically
    everything is fixed!Click image for larger version. 

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    price less than 400 €
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    a consolation:
    a blank weapons expert from Germany can not fault recognize the new photos.
    only the polished blade and curved bayonet guard.
    I appreciate his opinion much he has been collecting over 30years.
    the seller offers me the redemption or payment as compensation.
    the knife is cheaper.
    the question is:
    what to do?
    the decision is hard for me because I love hj knife.

    regards from germany

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    Last edited by maxxx; 02-21-2015 at 07:12 PM.

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    Max,


    Going by these new pix the rivet ends look much better but you say the rivets are magnetic steel & going by your other BOKER the rivets look like solid nickle non magnetic ?, solid nickle rivets were mostly used on early non ricasso hj knifes imo.


    its up to you keep or return.



    Mac 66.

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    For interest's sake, here is a Boker which is coming up for sale in April.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Ade,


    Not a bad Transitional Boker

    the rivets on this one are solid nickle & unmessed with imo

    Scabbard looks blued / anodised

    a little sharpening on the blade & scabbard leather snap loop is gone but thats it !



    Cheers Mac 66.

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    This hobby never ceases to amaze me..with these rare finds..thankyou Ade for bumping this one up. Cheers Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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