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Article about: Hi all, my friend went out and bought this HJ knife, I know nowt about these so your help would be appreciated, in my mind just from the leather I believe it is a fake, gents its over to you

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    Hi all, my friend went out and bought this HJ knife, I know nowt about these so your help would be appreciated, in my mind just from the leather I believe it is a fake, gents its over to you
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    Hi Ben ,i think your right ,im no expert on these but i believe the lip on the opening to the scabbard would not be found on period HJ
    knives.Also the registered maker mark on the blade looks a bit
    suss.

    Cheers Brookes.

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    Hi Ben , this looks like a post war made scouts knife that has had a HJ lozenge inserted . The makers mark on the ricasso shows a modern day registered trade mark ( R in a circle ) the pattern on the grips run parallel with the lozenge ( another give away ) , and the scabbard has a thick throat where the knife is inserted , when all period examples had no throat and a single small rivet in the front , just down from the throat ,

    cheers Al

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    Thanks guys, I thought as much but I have never collected these at all, I only know what I have read about them, the leather on the scabbard was suspect to me straight away!
    Ben

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    Ben the guys are 100% correct on this hj knife its a post war copy, i hope your friend didnt pay too much for it mate if he did tell him to get a refund.
    Cheers Scott.

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    Ben the guys are 100% correct on this hj knife its a post war copy, i hope your friend didnt pay too much for it mate if he did tell him to get a refund.
    Cheers Scott.
    Hey cheers Scott, he paid £150, I have told him to take it back and the seller to read this thread if he has doubts about the knife!
    Ben

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    Quote by ALLERBERGER View Post
    Hi Ben , this looks like a post war made scouts knife that has had a HJ lozenge inserted . The makers mark on the ricasso shows a modern day registered trade mark ( R in a circle ) the pattern on the grips run parallel with the lozenge ( another give away ) , and the scabbard has a thick throat where the knife is inserted , when all period examples had no throat and a single small rivet in the front , just down from the throat ,

    cheers Al
    Al could you post any pics of a genuine one for an example?

    Thanks

    Ben
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    Hey cheers Scott, he paid £150, I have told him to take it back and the seller to read this thread if he has doubts about the knife!
    Ben he was done stinking at £150, worth maybe £25max, heres a pic of an hj knife i recently sold on. Al some hj knife makers grip pattern does run parrallel with the daimond like this late war Anton Wingen without motto, but you are correct about being a red flag just to make you look more into an hj knife for anymore problems!!!
    Regards Scott.
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    Fake HJ knives are endemic.

    Last week my daughter called to say that a friend of her boyfriend had got a HJ dagger to sell which once belonged to his Grandad. So I was fairly hopefull it would be good. I went over to see her and the knife on Friday and it too was a fake.

    Cheers, Ade.

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