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    Hello all,

    I know very little of edged weapons and forgive me if I sound ignorant. Why do some HJ knives have the inscription and others not, is it a time-period thing?

    Please let me know either way.

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    Quote by all1knew View Post
    Hello all,

    I know very little of edged weapons and forgive me if I sound ignorant. Why do some HJ knives have the inscription and others not, is it a time-period thing?

    Please let me know either way.

    William Kramer
    Hi William

    I believe the earlier knives were inscripted but the later ones were not purley as a cost saving !

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    the engraver died!! (lol!!)
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

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    I believe they dropped the motto some point in 1938. So you are right later knives do not have a motto. Why? I've never heard an answer to that one. This was a time when everything was being rationalized, conscription was in place and cheaper materials and production methods were being sought for everything....
    or of course the engraver died

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    Quote by Lakesidetrader View Post
    I believe they dropped the motto some point in 1938. So you are right later knives do not have a motto. Why? I've never heard an answer to that one. This was a time when everything was being rationalized, conscription was in place and cheaper materials and production methods were being sought for everything....
    or of course the engraver died
    Thanks for the replies.

    All HJ knives are RZM though, correct?

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    No Sir, there are a few variations.
    Take a second and read this it may answer a lot of questions:
    Lakesidetrader German Dagger & Military Collectable Site

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    Paul,

    More than helpful and thank you.

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    I thought the leader had Blut & Erhe , the rest were plain... some plain were etched later to sell for more money

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    Hi Lakesidetrader, thanks for sharing your experience on the HJ items. Very, very insightful, nice link.

    Jay

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    Quote by stuka f View Post
    the engraver died!! (lol!!)
    haha good one kris

    and great info in the link provided by lakeside

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