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    Is this a repo or original?

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    Any other info is appreciated!

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    The maker mark says

    Othello
    Solingen
    Germany

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    I am far from an expert, but this one does not sit right with me. I believe the HJ diamond should have a fish scale or strawberry bumpy pattern to the red enamel.

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    The later ones 1940-1942 had the diamonds like this. I'm more concerned about the maker mark and the missing RZM stamp.

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    The untextured diamond and the English text "Germany" are bad signs. Still that doesn't necessarily mean the dagger is bad. I would recommend posting a picture of the whole knife so the HJ guys can give you a better opinion. I've never heard of the smooth diamond being late war?

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    Quote by fallingskies View Post
    The later ones 1940-1942 had the diamonds like this. I'm more concerned about the maker mark and the missing RZM stamp.
    With all due respect, that's incorrect.

    Check this out: https://www.lakesidetrader.com/Educa...lut-und-Ehre!/

    I believe this is a post-war boy scout knife that was made to the same dimensions as TR era HJ knives. Someone added the bogus HJ diamond to fool potential buyers.

    Building off of this, HJ diamonds are never any color but red.

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    It says they were in this thread....

    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/dagger...1942-a-263158/

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    With all due respect to Mac, these aren't exactly words I'd be willing to put money down on.

    Seldom Seen, Some Collectors Dont Like Them But I & Many Other Old Timers Do, Long Story, Lol
    I'll go with Paul at Lakeside on this one...

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    This is a recent repro with a possible real diamond. The knife itself is a 1960s or 70s make,,and should not spell in English.."Germany. The G.C.Co 420 logo on the opposite side of the ricasso is a widely used company in reproducing these knives. i have one of these myself which makes a great camping tool.
    To support also the information listed on Pauls website if you scroll down a bit further the good and the bad are listed. Regardless of the diamond,, this dagger is recent, below is the "good and bad" Regards Larry

    GOOD:

    Honest even wear
    Magnetic scabbard with rivet to the front
    Cotton liner covers
    Loose HJ diamonds
    Fish scale red enamel
    Flecked gold swastika background

    BAD

    RZM designation on the obverse, (normally found to reverse) riccasso
    Casting seams on the hilt
    Poorly fit grip plates
    New smelling leather
    Alloy non-magnetic scabbards
    Minty factory fresh
    Banged up poorly formed rivets
    "Germany" anywhere on the knife or scabbard
    Motto with no makers name
    Motto with RZM Blades dated 1939 and later
    Solid red on the diamonds
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    Quote by Sir Payne View Post
    and the English text "Germany"
    Is all you need to see to know this is not a genuine HJ dagger.

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