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HJ Dagger with strange Inscription

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    The Yad Vashem photo archive has quite a few decent photos of the Juist Hitler Youth group there. From the looks of the buildings and assembled boys, it was, apparently, quite large and professional.

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    Looking closer at the etching, it appears that several of the scratches in the motto seem to have gone both under and at other times over the lettering-it is clearest in the word "Mas". If this slogan was applied After the knives were issued, this would look to make sense, rather than having been laid onto a brand new untouched blade. The lettering in the slogan also looks to have the odd little "bumps and dots" in them that you see in many of the period etched blade motto's. However, the "Juist" marking seems to be fairly well worn.
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    It stands a good chance, the motto etch looks period.
    most likely its a private purchase, but imo period.

    The motto means more like: praise what makes you tougher!
    It was the main Motto of the "Reichssportschulen" it was made to toughen the body by sport.
    For those of you who can read German the link below will give you more info about it:
    Hitlers Kinder: Verführung

    Cheers Ger
    Last edited by gerrit; 02-18-2013 at 10:21 AM.

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    Interesting dagger. I look forward to hearing a verdict on this one.

    Quote by gerrit View Post
    It stands a good chance, the motto etch looks period.
    most likely its a private purchase, but imo period.

    The motto means more like: praise what makes you tougher!
    It was the main Motto of the "Reichssportschulen" it was made to toughen the body by sport.
    For those of you who van read German the link below will give you more info about it:
    Hitlers Kinder: Verführung

    Cheers Ger
    Guido Knopp has made some well researched programs.

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    I will keep this thread close to the top of the forum. I would also like to hear Mac66 input on it. The information gathered so far has credibility. Good job gents
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    Guys i like this hj knife with inscription

    First time i,ve heard about The Juist HJ Group so i have learned something new today,

    The inscription looks period applied & looks very much like it was acid etched, this hj knife would fit the 1940 period when the hj were active on Juist Island.

    You guys have done a great job of finding out what the inscription means & info on Juist Hj Group,

    pity the daimond was replaced but the replacement looks genuine & i would like to see a photo of the rear of the daimond please ?


    Interesting thread BTW

    Regards Mac 66.

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    Here are some more photos of the blade , the diamond is has a pin type back , pin removed . I'll get a photo if you would like Mac 66 .
    Thanks for all the interest and replies .
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    Reminds me of the great western movie "A hard man is good to find" or is it ''A good man is hard to find" I think Mae West starred in one of the movies

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    Quote by operaman View Post
    Reminds me of the great western movie "A hard man is good to find" or is it ''A good man is hard to find" I think Mae West starred in one of the movies
    I think Mae would have prefered a hard man......

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    I have to admit I was doubtful from the beginning,,but I am glad we did not let this thread die. Research and perseverance paid off and uncovered another hidden truth about the HJ and its extended role outside the mainland. Great job gents!! 5 star rating on new information. Regards Larry
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    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

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    Thanks again for all the help everyone . I'm glad it's not a Porn dagger ! I'll post the diamond for Mac 66 , but it is not a dagger diamond . And one more of the blade , hard to get good photo's of it . If anyone ever see another Dagger like this please tell me . Thanks again . This is a wonderful site with a great group of members , I'm glad to be a part of it !
    Cheers Chris
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