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QUESTIONABLE Imperial Visor Hats

Article about: This is a closed thread which is for reference. All the caps here are either outright fakes, or have had their authenticity questioned at some point by advanced KR collectors. These hats are

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    Once glance at the interior will confirm that this is a repro.

    BobS

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    Sold as an Imperial Braunschweig visor on Ebay.
    (It is actually a TR Reichsbahn hat with a replaced sweatband).
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    Cockades are also in the wrong order; the Reichskokarde should be highest, and the state cockade here is actually for Wurttemberg, not Brunswick.

    BobS

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    Nice try:

    Ich biete hier eine sehr seltene Schirmmütze für einen Feldgeistlichen an. Die Mütze hat einen violetten Besatzstreifen und eine violette Waffenfarbe. Zwischen der bayerischen und Reichskokarde befindet sich ein weißes Kreuz mit der Innenschrift "INRI". Das Kreuz wurde bestimmt privat beschafft und besteht aus "Bein". Der Hersteller dieser Mütze ist "Wilh. Henzold - Ansbach" aus Bayern. Die Mützengröße würde ich ca. auf eine 55/56 schätzen. Die Mütze ist im Fundzustand und wurde von außen nur ein wenig gesäubert. Im Original ist auch die Farbe der Mütze mehr violett als sie jetzt auf den Fotos wirkt, aber leider bekommt das meine Kamera nicht besser hin. Eine extrem seltene Kopfbedeckung! Den Rest entnehmen sie bitte den vielen Bildern, die Bestandteil der Auktionsbeschreibung sind. Viel Spaß beim bieten.

    Went for $818.80 on Ebay
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    Schutztruppen--went for EUR 2,119.00
    $2,598.64 on Ebay
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    Looks like the leather fittings were baked in an oven:
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    Quote by stonemint View Post
    Seebataillon--went for EUR 1,004.00 ($1,231.26) on Ebay
    Anyone else see what looked to be an authentic East Africa Schutztruppe officer's cap that just sold on Ebay Deutcshland for $ 2,600 ( !!! ) ?

    BobS

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    Hi

    I missed the east Africa one so can't comment but people thought it was a good one to drive the price up......there is one on uk e bay at the moment for buy it now price of £700 something.....

    The three above are going to be tough to move on I reckon. The Chaplin was one I watched and it at best a 1920's copy but not an original in a 100 years.....(no pun Intended!).

    That all said the copies/fakes are getting good............too good! Thanks heavens for threads like this.

    happy xmas all.

    Tony

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    The Schutztruppen and the Seebataillon were both sold by the same seller. I was not a fan of either one.
    I echo Tony's concerns regarding the Feldgeistliche visor--at best a 1920's verein, but at worst a Frankenstein (I vote the latter).

    Yes, they have really been picking up the pace lately with regard to faking Imperial visors.....
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    Probably made to be Generalstab, but in this set-up, would be Apotheker:
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