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    Hello guys what do you think of this one? I don't like the edges of the core. It seems like the core was cut and placed in the frame.
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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    donkihotis, this type of core is the so-called "SCHINKEL" stepped iron core of the 1813 EK, and by this time (1870-71) was no longer in evidence, except for some miniatures and Prinzen type crosses. So therefore on this evidence alone it is a fake. Serious study of the 1870 EK is needed if one is to invest in an example....Greg (Chopperman) has provided pointers and information on these crosses, I think in the extensive thread on EK's it is a "Sticky" in the Imperial sub section, have a look.
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
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    I will, thanks once again for your help buddy.
    Chris
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    I do not have this particular cross in my files but from the pictures provided. i don't like it.
    As Steve said, the stepped core is a big red flag. So is the over/under style 8 in the 1870
    date. Another red flag to me is the fact that in all the sellers pictures, the obverse crown
    is always turned away from the camera and out of focus. The crown details are one of the
    best tools in identifing crosses. Also it appears that the seams where the two halves of the
    silver frame is put together look wide and uneven.

    My own opinion is that this might have started life a s a good 1914 and has been re-cored with a fake 1870 core.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    My own opinion is that this might have started life a s a good 1914 and has been re-cored with a fake 1870 core.
    Exactly what i thought.
    Thank you also for your input Greg.
    Cheers
    Chris.
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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