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1870 german imperial 1st class iron cross marked

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    Default 1870 german imperial 1st class iron cross marked

    What about this one??? I think this will bring "real money" It has an unusual Back on it. The information is as follows: 1870 Iron cross 1st class on round back plate with double pin fastener. The back plate is marked L.L. for maker Louis Lemcke in Berlin. Type A Berlin Foundry core, These pictures are all I have on this one also.
    Any opinions. It is on an auction and is started at 300.00 and has an unknown reserve.
    I am learning about these TR crosses. So any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks,
    John

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    I specialize in M1 carbines and Lugers.

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    Hi John,
    I am 99% sure this is a fantasy piece.

    My 1% of uncertainty comes from the fact that Lemcke
    crosses are so rare that we don't have a good datebase
    of these to compare against. The two that I have seen
    posted both used standard cores from the time. The
    same cores that Wagner and Godet used. The next
    thing is that hair pin mounting system. Over the years
    I have seen several crosses posted that attempted to
    use hair pins (for lack of a better term) and all were
    deemed fake.

    The next thing is just the overall appearence of the
    frame and core. They really have that made yesterday
    look about them.

    hope this helps,
    Greg
    gregM
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    Not to mention the Pins as well....for 140 year old pins, they don't have a lick of wear,scratches or patina....
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Thanks Guys. You have been a big help on this.

    John
    I specialize in M1 carbines and Lugers.

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    enough said.

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    Club fake. Godet 1914 core wannabe.

    Miro

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    i didn't buy it on the advise of my forum friends. Someone got took big time and paid 1200.00 for it. A fool and his money soon parted.
    Again thanks for all the help.
    John
    I specialize in M1 carbines and Lugers.

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    Quote by guns ltd View Post
    i didn't buy it on the advise of my forum friends. Someone got took big time and paid 1200.00 for it. A fool and his money soon parted.
    Again thanks for all the help.
    John
    Unfortunately, truer words were never spoken!
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