Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

[unimarc]

I think this one is the closest I've come on an ebay item, but still not convinced enough to please a bid :-/

What's your oppinion ? ( it's long gone, so no worries)

[Chopperman]

Interesting piece Marc,
It is fake. A true Frankenstein cross made up
of different bits.

My guess is that someone took apart a "Jubilee" era
1870 (made post 1895)
and then turned it into a 1st class cross. That might
explain the hardware used on the back. Made to look
repaired but in fact just made up. I can say that it
is not a Wagner. The core details are all wrong and I do
not like the Wagner marks on the back.

Any time you see a Wagner marked 1870, warning bells
should go off. A true Wagner marked cross would be
the hallmark of any collection and the fakers know that.
In all the years I've been doing this, I think I may have
only seen 1 or maybe 2 originals ever posted. But fakes
abound.

Thanks for posting it.

[unimarc]

Amazing what people go trough, to make money !
I thought the stamp looked funny , right text but wrong stamp ! And also the mysterious "repaired" mechanic :-/

Mfg
Marc

[unimarc]

And how about this one ........???













Could it be the same "maker" ?? ;-/

Mfg
Marc

[wharfrat57]

I surf eBay every once in and a while. I'm glad this forum exists or I'd probably be spending some hard earned money on a lot of fakes.
Best regards

[Chopperman]

It's hard to tell from the horrible pictures about
the details but the hooks are wrong.

[unimarc]

Yes, I know, but it was just another eBay example, that to me looked like the same stamp on the back ! Sorry, not my pics :-/. But maybe part of the sales tactic ;-)

Mfg
Marc

[Chopperman]

Someday I hope to find a Wagner marked ek1.
(wouldn't we all ) but in all honesty, I would settle for most
any authentic 1870 1st class.

[unimarc]

Me too ;-)

Mfg
Marc

[unimarc]

And another one I guess ........!

Hooks and stamp looks bad to me.