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Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

Article about: Last time I pointed out the "Muffin Crown" fake. Today while surfing ebay, I came across another one that fools a lot of unsuspecting people. This one is the "Deschler" f

  1. #21

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    That is a scary cross.

    I agree- the stamps are wrong for an original
    Wagner. (wrong font) I really don't like the
    whole back side of this cross. The pin and
    catch look close as do the hooks but the back
    just looks off. I don't know how to say it that
    would make sense but the back frame looks soft.
    It should be flat and smooth and to me it looks
    kind of wavy.

    The front of the cross (what we can see of it) looks
    good. But I would really like to see a good, straight
    on shot that shows the crown. ---- I almost hate to
    think this but I almost suspect that someone took a
    perfectly good 1870 Ek2 and (Frankensteined) it into a
    1st class cross.

    This thing could fool a lot of people.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    I think it is about to, at least to some extend !

    It is past 230 euros, still 8 hours to go ! Poor guy.

    Mfg
    Marc
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    Sold at 450 euros !!!!!!!!!!

    Mfg
    Marc
    Wir kapitulieren niemals !

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    At that price, either someone got one H3ll of a deal or threw away
    some hard earned cash.---I am thinking the later.

    That is about 1/10th of what an known original would sell for
    so I am guessing most serious collectors stayed away from
    it as well.

    It will now be interesting to see which forum it pops up one.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

  5. #25

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    I am surprised Miro has not joined the conversation.
    He might say that I am totally wrong about this cross.
    (which I might be) I know I would not spend my own
    money on this on without having much better pictures
    or holding it in hand.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Not to think bad of other people's fortune, but I hope you are right :-/
    I know I don't have money enough to take chances like this !

    Mfg
    Marc
    Wir kapitulieren niemals !

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    This one has got very odd looking details on its crown and possibly "new" rust.

    German 1870 Iron Cross 2nd Class Franco Prussian War | eBay

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    I'm adding the picture so that we still have it once the
    ebay link goes dead.
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    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    That cross is a perfect example of the "Latvian Fake"
    This cross can be found as a 1813,1914 and 1939.
    It also is seen as a 1st or 2nd class and as a grand
    cross and with the star to the grand cross and with
    all sorts of different means of attachments.

    These are easy to spot from the distintive look of the
    inner corners and the round crown on the Imperial versions.
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    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    I'm adding the picture so that we still have it once the
    ebay link goes dead.
    Yikes. Someone just paid 470.00 for that one on ebay. Poor collector...

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