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Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

Article about: Last time I pointed out the "Muffin Crown" fake. Today while surfing ebay, I came across another one that fools a lot of unsuspecting people. This one is the "Deschler" f

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    Default Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

    Last time I pointed out the "Muffin Crown" fake. Today while
    surfing ebay, I came across another one that fools a lot of
    unsuspecting people.

    This one is the "Deschler" fake----

    SUPER RARE 1870 IRON CROSS 1st CL, MAKER MARKED - eBay (item 110555370482 end time Jul-11-10 13:12:32 PDT)

    I am attaching the photos so we will still have them as a
    reference once the link goes dead.--
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    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Default Re: Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

    This fake is easily recognised by the unique style of the date.
    Especially the "8". Also by it's crown and the fact that it is a
    one piece cast piece.

    It's called the "Deschler" fake because it was first found
    with the "DeschlerSohn" makers mark but has also been
    seen marked "Ges. Gesch." , "D&S" , "Munchen 9" and
    with various 800, 900, 925 silver marks. It can be found
    with different style pins and also as a screwback.

    Here are some more from my files--
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    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Some examples of the makers marks--
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    Last edited by Chopperman; 07-05-2010 at 06:33 PM.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Here is a link to the "Muffin Crown" thread-----

    http://warrelics.eu/forum/imperial-g...-1870-a-21398/
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Default Re: Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

    Good info here Greg, thanks for posting. 1870's EK's are a minefield !...however with this type of thread, the minefield can be traversed...I am amazed at the amount of 1870 fakes on Fleabay....IMO best bought from a good dealer.....
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Default Re: Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

    Ebay can be a great soarce of original militaria--BUT--you really
    have to do your homework. The great majority of my crosses
    came off ebay. Including some of my 1870s and my 1813.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Default Re: Another fake 1870Ek on ebay

    I get alot of mine from ebay as well but I have yet to see a real 1870 EK1. I will take both advice and keep getting what I know off ebay but will probably get my first 1870 EK1 elsewhere. Someday?

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    Thoughts on these? More Deschler fakes?

    Imperial German 1CLASS Iron Cross 1870 | eBay

    German Iron Cross 1914 First Class | eBay

    (checking out the muffin crown thread now)

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    Greg thanks for the info very interesting.. Cheers Terry.

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    Thanks Greg, for the info, precise and very useful as always . I don't believe I've seen an original 1870 first class on eBay yet :-)

    Mfg
    Marc
    Wir kapitulieren niemals !

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