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Bayonet identifaction help ?

Article about: The bayonet that Alder is talking about is what we are referring to as the Quillion Back. His statement above is 100% correct. With the blade at 15 1/8" it is a S98na that has been modi

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    Hello all,

    The leather sheath on this one reminded me of earlier German examples and I would like to get a positive ID if at all possible. Any help?

    William Kramer
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    Us and them - and after all were only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows its not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    German Gew98 Mauser Quillback Bayonet?

    Tom

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    Quote by StuG III View Post
    German Gew98 Mauser Quillback Bayonet ? Tom
    Thats what I would say.......
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Without a doubt - quillback.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    It looks like a Quillion Back. But may have been modified. The blade is shorter than normal. On a regular 98 Quillion Back the quillion/spine goes to the point Like this.
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    .The Blade on mine is about 20 5/16 ".The one above looks like the point was made some where along the blood grove.
    If you don't mind me asking.
    How long is the blade on this?

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    Its a shortened version of S98 long bayo - blade length should be 12 inches.

    Called as a S98 Matrosen Artillerie (or something like that). Nice example with good original sheath

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    Hello all,

    I appreciate all of the help with this one!

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all were only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows its not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    So how long is the blade on this bayonet?

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    It's indeed a shortened bayonet. The official name would be S98nA, that means Seitengewehr model 1898 neuer Art (bayonet model 1898 new type). The first model (S98aA, Seitengewehr alter Art) had the wooden grips made in one pice, but because they were damaged very quickly, they changed this model to the S98nA with seperate grips.
    In this case I think it's an export model, because of the number on the guard. Normally with a German bayonet there would be a regimental stamp, but this is another number... can not tell from the provided pictures, but possibly the Peruvian export model... So better pictures will be neaded to determine this. When it's the Peruvian model there will also be a stamp (Peruvian wappen) on the hilt of the pommel.
    Maybe you can show some pictures of the other stamps, so we can see who made this bayonet ans in which year?
    Another possibility would be that the bayonet is German and used in a shortened version after WW1... hopefully we can find out by better pictures...

    Hope this helps you,

    Adler

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    15 1/8" long on the blade for AzPhil!

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