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03-02-2015 09:12 PM
# ADS
Circuit advertisement
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Hello Paul,
A very nice medal bar. Crisp & clean ribbons, and excellent condition medals. Congratulations! 
can i take it that the bar they are both mounted on is contempory to the 1930's
Yes, collectors generally consider this type of medal bar to be contemporary to the 1930's. And with the D.R.G.M. marking on the backside of the bar, I believe it is acceptable to say that the actual physical metal bar itself (without the ribbons) may have been manufactured prior to introduction of the so-called Hindenburg Cross. In other words, I believe that an old stock hardware medal bar was used to make up this mount you own. It's pretty typical to see these D.R.G.M. marked metal bars used for mounts after the introduction of the Hindenburg Cross.
I think that the style of ribbon mount is also called a "southern mount", or in other words, "Bavarian-style" ribbon mount on the medal bar. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
My personal opinion is that it is a very attractive way to mount the ribbons on the bar.
Best Regards,
Alan
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I have a déja vu, but this is another "O" cross in short period of time, that is in fact "G" cross, marked for Godet Berlin. In this case it is even clearer. I see G on 3rd and 4th photo without any doubt.
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Cheers Miro, Godet would be cool ,have any of the Iron Cross experts any thoughts on the core style,type ? Cheers Paul 
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paulscoot
Hi people ,Find attached some pictures of what i think is a nice Iron cross 2nd class 1914 mounted on a ribbon bar with a nice World war Honour cross (Hindenburg cross , is this the German or Allied name for this i wonder?)
"Hindenburg Cross" is a pure collector term, commonly used in the English-speaking world. It has found its way into German-language forums and shops as well, where it is used in the German version "Hindenburgkreuz".
(It is worth noting, by the way, that there actually was an entirely different decoration - an unofficial one awarded by the Preußischer Landeskriegerverband [Prussian State Veterans' Association] that was actually called Hindenburgkreuz.)
However, officially, the 1914/18 Honor Cross family was collectively referred to as Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914/1918 [Honor Cross of the World War 1914/1918]; the one for combatants specifically- as seen here - was the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer [Honor Cross for Frontline Combatants], which is how it was referred to in period paperwork such as application forms and award documents.
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ww1czechlegion
Yes, collectors generally consider this type of medal bar to be contemporary to the 1930's. And with the D.R.G.M. marking on the backside of the bar, I believe it is acceptable to say that the actual physical metal bar itself (without the ribbons) may have been manufactured prior to introduction of the so-called Hindenburg Cross. In other words, I believe that an old stock hardware medal bar was used to make up this mount you own. It's pretty typical to see these D.R.G.M. marked metal bars used for mounts after the introduction of the Hindenburg Cross.
The abbreviation/mark "D.R.G.M." for "Deutsches Reichs-Gebrauchsmuster" [German Reichs Utility Model, i.e. a "petty patent"] was used from 1891 to 1945.
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ww1czechlegion
I think that the style of ribbon mount is also called a "southern mount", or in other words, "Bavarian-style" ribbon mount on the medal bar. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
That is correct. While it was not to be used for the decorations worn with the uniforms of active military personnel (although even that was not always obeyed), this traditional "Bavarian mount" was commercially available in the Third Reich era and quite popular with veterans from Southern Germany.
Last edited by HPL2008; 03-03-2015 at 10:09 PM.
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