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Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback

Article about: Afternoon chaps I won this cross at Ratisbons latest auction and it is stone mint. It is a 1 piece cross with a screwback. Until recently my basic knowledge of 1 piece crosses consisted of S

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    Afternoon chaps

    I won this cross at Ratisbons latest auction and it is stone mint.

    It is a 1 piece cross with a screwback.

    Until recently my basic knowledge of 1 piece crosses consisted of Schickle and Linden, although now I think Deumer made them too.

    If someone can help me identify this maker I'd owe that man (or person if you are gender neutral!!) a milky way and a go on my bmx

    Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback

    Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback

    Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback

    Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback

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    Wilhelm Deumer, I believe.
    Ralph.
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    A real beauty Jamie, just like new.
    Ken

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    There are some real experts amongst the membership (not me!) but if was to take a punt, based on the crown, the inner corners, pebbled core and clam shell screw back I am thinking Petz & Lorenz TR made for WWI recipients.

    Very nice piece in any case.

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Is that not a Schickle cross?
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    Quote by tompress View Post
    Is that not a Schickle cross?


    Absolutely correct. A very nice cross by Otto Schickle.
    gregM
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    Quote by Watchdog View Post
    --- based on the crown, the inner corners, pebbled core and clam shell screw back I am thinking Petz & Lorenz TR made for WWI recipients.

    Very nice piece in any case.

    Regards

    Mark
    Very close Mark.
    P-L crosses are very very close in appearance to Schickle made crosses.
    The main difference is in some small details of the crown. I can never keep them
    straight so i made this photoshop cheat sheet as a reminder.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse, 1 piece cross, screwback  
    Last edited by Chopperman; 06-15-2018 at 04:57 AM.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Thanks guys.

    With this being a Schickle I now have the ek2 one piece version, a pin back 1 piece and now the screwback version too.

    I compared this ek1 with my ek2 and the paint is almost identical. Looks like skin in the right light.

    Can't believe I was able to get one in this condition, over 100 years old and just like it was made this morning.

    I have to say that I do prefer Imperial EKs to their TR brethern.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Very close Mark.
    P-L crosses are very very close in appearance to Schickle made crosses.
    The main difference is in some small details of the crown. I can never keep them
    straight so i made this photoshop cheat sheet as a reminder.
    Thanks Greg, me neither!
    Funny enough I considered Schickle but went the other way! I must hi-jack your crib sheet and keep it in my files!!

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Jamie,
    What an absolutely beautiful cross! There is no finer example I see posted in our Forum. Well done!

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