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Article about: Hello Ladies & Gents I was wondering if anybody could help me out on this one?. It is priced at 275 pounds. & I would like to know if it is the real deal & is that a good price??

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    Hello Ladies & Gents I was wondering if anybody could help me out on this one?. It is priced at 275 pounds. & I would like to know if it is the real deal & is that a good price??. I do have the books at home for some research but being away from home working they ain't much good...Thanks for your time Terry. Click image for larger version. 

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    Best wait for Greg/Chopperman to chime in on this one, Terry...he's pretty good with the Imperial crosses...
    I'm not too sure about the ribbon, but to my eyes the cross looks okay as long as it's a 3-piece cross...
    cheers, Glenn

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    Thanks Glenn for the super fast answer.. I will wait as I haven't a clue on these but I would like one in my collection if I have the pennies?. Cheers Terry.

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    I would agree with Glenn - wait for Greg to pop by.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    I don't like it. I am pretty sure it's a 9th bead fake.
    The crown details are hard to make out because of
    the lifting paint, but the date is wrong for an issue
    cross.

    Take a look at the "8" in the date, The cross in question
    has an over / under style 8. ( one loop of the 8 appears to
    lay over the top of the other loop of the 8)---over and under.

    Original issue crosses use a flat 8.--That is-- no perceived
    overlap to the loops in the 8.

    Here is a date from a 9th bead fake cross.---
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    Last edited by Chopperman; 04-17-2014 at 05:53 AM.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    This shows a comparison of a issue Wagner cross
    and a 9th bead fake. ( Godet, Wager and AWS all
    used a flat style "8".

    Oh, and BTW-- I mentioned the paint is lifting of the
    core. A issue 1870 was chemically blacked NOT painted.
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    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Greg, you are the resident expert on these........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Hi Steve,
    Thanks but believe me, I am no expert.

    All Imperial Ek2s had Fredrich Wilhelms initials on them.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Thanks Greg you are a star & I have learnt something here today about the paint etc.. So thank you very much for your time & effort.. So I won't be buying this one then!! lol.. Cheers Terry.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Hi Steve,
    All Imperial Ek2s had Fredrich Wilhelms initials on them.
    Yes, I see the FW initials now. Looked like missing
    paint to me for a second.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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