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Fake Ehrenkreuz für Hinterbliebene

Article about: Found this for sale but the picture of the reverse shows lack of detail and looks cast to me from the rough edges and pits, haven't seen one this bad before. Is it a fake? the obverse looks

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    Default Fake Ehrenkreuz für Hinterbliebene

    Found this for sale but the picture of the reverse shows lack of detail and looks cast to me from the rough edges and pits, haven't seen one this bad before.

    Is it a fake? the obverse looks to lack some detail as well.

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    Sorry these are the only two pictures I have.

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    Stefan, as far as I am aware they do not make fakes of these crosses, two reasons, one they are plentiful and secondly they are cheap...no reason to reproduce ! I have heard that these crosses are made post war (WW2) for veterans.....they ran alongside the 57er range (and before)...the one you show is an original one, and a nice change from the generic crosses that just show a maker number rather than a full name, as on this one......"W.SCH.&Co." is believed to be for the firm of "Wilhelm Schroder & Co". of Ludenscheid.
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Thats a nice original presented to the next of Kin

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Thanks Steve, I thought that was the case for not reproducing them, just wanted to make sure.

    Although even 50 of these repro'd at £6-10 would return a profit I'm sure and fall under the radar better been safe than sorry.

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    While these are common and cheap they are also being reproduced - see here Worldwide Militaria, LLC: Hindenburg Cross without swords - but with the wrong ribbon. Terry

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    [QUOTE=tbk0000;740612]While these are common and cheap they are also being reproduced - see here [url=http://www.wwmeinc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? Terry[/QUOTE]

    Terry, are you sure is this fake ? this company sells originals as well as reproductions...it does not state it is fake on the page ? the ribbon is a reproduction....and has been available/reproduced for years... it is priced as for an original cross....all the other Imperial medals/awards are being offered as reproductions but the Hindenburg crosses are not ? if copies, they are good !
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Hi Steve, I thought they may have just been recycling but their intro page Worldwide Militaria, LLC: German Militaria clearly states "WorldWide Militaria offers a outstanding selection of German Militaria. These reproduction medals, badges and insignia are of the highest quality you'll find anywhere. From decorations, medals and badges, to daggers, armbands and even a 'potato masher' grenade, we have what you've been looking for!". That said I agree that there is enough variation in the pictures to indicate that they could just be recycled crosses - Terry

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