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Article about: While surfing ebay, I came across this example of a "Frankenstein" iron cross. That is, a cross made up of miss-matched parts or upgrade with different pins, screws or what ever to

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    While surfing ebay, I came across this example of a "Frankenstein" iron cross.
    That is, a cross made up of miss-matched parts or upgrade with different
    pins, screws or what ever to increase their value.

    Some can be hard to judge but this one is a good example of what I mean.

    This probably started out as a wonerfully aged 2nd class cross.
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    gregM
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    myself around.

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    and someone did this to it---------
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    gregM
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    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    hi chopperman..it not the first time and it wont be the last ,this Muppet has had doctored crosses on his eBay page, its a shame to see history destroyed in this fashion. his eBay shop is always good for a laugh , cheers Paul

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    Quote by ppsh33 View Post
    hi chopperman..it not the first time and it wont be the last
    Yea, I know.-------and he is not the only one. Reworking Eks is becomeing quite a closet industry.

    Ebay.de usually has a few examples of Frankenstein crosses wainting for the unexperienced coleectors.

    If a cross looks to good to be true, it usually is.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Hi Thats vandalism ,as you say it probaly was a well aged EK11 you can still see heat marks ,thanks for drawing attention to this ebay seller I would not buy from him now . the intention to decieve is clear no one with any modicum of knowledge would giveŁ200 for that .

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    Quote by stalheim56 View Post
    Hi Thats vandalism ,as you say it probaly was a well aged EK11 you can still see heat marks ,thanks for drawing attention to this ebay seller I would not buy from him now . the intention to decieve is clear no one with any modicum of knowledge would giveŁ200 for that .
    Well said, but sadly someone will bid and buy these crosses, not all collectors visit these pages or do their homework.......Greg thanks for bringing this subject up. Sadly, I suppose, there are those, who will still come to defend these characters on fleabay.
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
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    Hi, all !

    It is sad to see a good cross ruined ................ !

    A member posted two EKI crosses several months ago with suspicious
    heat marks on the edges, and I now think they both were altered
    just like this. Can't remember if they were WWI or not.

    Looks like the one above was reassembled incorrectly as well;

    Most Imperial EKII cores have SOME movement - there are rust marks
    on the left and right arms of the core, but the rusty 'lines' where the
    frame was originally positioned appear too far into the center !
    Look at the off-set crown as well.
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Gents, one the common types of altered/Frankenstein crosses doing the rounds in the past couple of years are the "1870" EK's, where the fraudster uses a genuine WW1 frame and a repro/fake core, some are easy to detect (they leave the marked suspension ring on the frame/solder the frames up badly) others more difficult and need hands on scrutiny and knowledge of the 1870 cross !
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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