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Article about: I pick this sword up in a trade (with-out a scabbard) ,and would like to get some help to ID it. It appears to be an older combat German style sword with a dove type grip and guard. There ar

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    I pick this sword up in a trade (with-out a scabbard) ,and would like to get some help to ID it. It appears to be an older combat German style sword with a dove type grip and guard. There are no langet and the ricasso is marked with a star over a W in shield. The grip and the quillon is marked with a royal cypher (crown over?). The blade is 30” and 1 ¼ “wide at the ricasso,the blade also have a odd grove near the middle of the blade top. It appears to be a re-issues (with two set of regimentally marking) .
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    Looks like a Imperial NCO dove head to me with ground off tangs and triple wire wrap missing.
    But I could be wrong.
    Eric
    [h=3]e plu·ri·bus u·num[/h]

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    Thanks, you may be right, But the langet does not appear to be ground off (to me).
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    I think this is a German sabre with a captured French blade.

    In German "Preuß. Ulanen-Säbel von 1873 mit Beuteklinge"

    The *W in the shield is a French poinçon de contrôle - inspection stamp.

    I can also see Imperial German inspection stamps.

    The sword looks to have been quite heavily cleaned - the blades often kept the original French manufacturers markings on the spine.

    There are other examples shown here - hopefully visible to non members of the forum

    Preuß. Ulanen-Säbel von 1873 mit Beuteklinge - Preussen - www.Blankwaffen-Forum.de

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    Thanks, I have not seen this type of sword before. By it being a German sabre with a captured French blade, would the blade have been captured from the Franco-Prussian war? Could any-one ID the royal cypher inspection stamp, I could not find it in any of the books which I have.

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    Its not only been "cleaned" it has also been sanded very heavily and not very well , a too harsh a grit has been used

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    Thanks, I have not seen this type of sword before. By it being a German sabre with a captured French blade, would the blade have been captured from the Franco-Prussian war? Could any-one ID the royal cypher inspection stamp, I could not find it in any of the books which I have.
    The word "beute" means captured or trophy in German so it is quite likely the blade was captured during the Franco-Prussian War which ended in 1871.

    The blade is probably from the French Modele 1822 Light Cavalry Sabre.

    The Star/W stamp is probably that of an inspector named Wiedman used between 1836-43.

    The Imperial inspection stamp is that of an individual inspector and is a letter in German script.

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    Thanks, I have learned so much from this forum.Have I been in error? I was under the understanding that the royal cypher inspection mark was related to a German state which accepted the item( not the individual inspector).
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    I can't ID the letter?
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