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Help to ID two Imperial German crowns

Article about: I picked up these two Imperial German crowns, I have been trying to ID them but none of the collectors in my area can ID them. They are 3 ¾ “ X 4 ¾ “, they appears to be a metal casting w/ a

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    Default Help to ID two Imperial German crowns

    I picked up these two Imperial German crowns, I have been trying to ID them but none of the collectors in my area can ID them. They are 3 ¾ “ X 4 ¾ “, they appears to be a metal casting w/ attachment pins on the back.
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    Don't know what they are for, but they sure looks nice ;-)

    Mfg
    Marc
    Wir kapitulieren niemals !

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    Hello Georg,

    They look similar in shape/design to the smaller size and thinner stamped crown on a Hessen buckle. Not sure what these are for, but I would say probably something dealing with the Hessen Grand Duchy.

    Best Regards,

    Alan

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    Alan
    I thought the very same thing when I first saw them but after a comparison I noticed there are subtle differences between the Hessen buckle crown and a Prussian crown.
    The design on the brow band of the what I think may be Prussian crown, the brow band of the crown pictured above, has a square in the center with circles and oblong shapes running to the back. The Hession crown has diamonds and 4 small dots in a diamond shape running around the brow band.
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    Thanks – I took them to a military show, one of the guys said that they look like decorative attachment to a Prussian Parade saddle Skirt- that kind of make sense to me-what do you guys think?

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    I would have to agree that they are off a Schabracke.

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    I'm trying to identify a similar crown, placed on the grips of a 1916 bayonet:

    98/05 bayonet converted to trench knives

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