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Article about: Excellent EKs you have there Chopperman. Can you tell me more info about this one?

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    Yours is most definitely a "JWS". For Johan Wagner and Sohn. The image I posted is
    a clearly marked JWS. MOST "JWS" crosses I have seen have a mark that much more resembles yours. The "S" is usually hard to make out. I believe that the stamp was just
    a bit too big to fit the curve of the ring.

    Here are 2 more examples--

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    gregM
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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Yours is most definitely a "JWS". The image I posted is a clearly marked JWS. MOST "JWS"
    crosses I have seen have a mark that much more resembles yours. The "S" is usually hard to
    make out. I believe that the stamp was just a bit too big to fit the curve of the ring.

    Here are 2 more examples--
    Do the frame and core on my cross match known "JWS" marked crosses, Greg?

    - Kenneth

  3. #623

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    I just did a bit of cutting and pasting and I over laid the original JWS mark (on
    orange background) picture that I posted over your JWS mark. You can see
    they are a real good match. Yours is the ring on the top and my example is
    the one below it.
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    gregM
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  4. #624

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    Quote by KSH View Post
    I found a makers list showing "JW" to be J.H. Werner, Berlin. Any thoughts on that?- Kenneth
    Kenneth, I agree with Greg regarding the marking on your cross, "JW" and "JWS" being the known WW1 mm for "Johann Wagner and Sohn" Berlin, prior to WW1 they had used "J.WAGNER & S" (this I believe is the mark that the "J" looks like an "I") and "W", they made both the EK I and EK II. The mark for J.H.Werner being both "JHW" and "J.H.WERNER BERLIN" as far as I am aware they only made the EK I. It can be very confusing, I hope I got it right !
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Quote by KSH View Post
    Do the frame and core on my cross match known "JWS" marked crosses, Greg?

    - Kenneth
    I do have a picture of a JWS cross that does match yours. Both the core details
    and also the frame beading at the inner corners. I do not have the owners permission
    to post it but if you like, send me a PM with your email address and I will send a copy
    to you. (as long it is for your own use and not posted)
    gregM
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    Thank you Greg and Steve!

    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    I do have a picture of a JWS cross that does match yours. Both the core details
    and also the frame beading at the inner corners. I do not have the owners permission
    to post it but if you like, send me a PM with your email address and I will send a copy
    to you. (as long it is for your own use and not posted)
    I'll take your word for it Greg - as I believe you are a much better judge of the characteristics of Imperial crosses than I am

    - Kenneth

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    Have not been active on this thread for a while and boy have I missed alot! Great crosses guys I recently took a few pics so here they are. A cased KAG and a Fr.Click image for larger version. 

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    Fr.Click image for larger version. 

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  9. #629

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    Lee, very nice boxed crosses , I like the stand
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Thanks Steve I think you have the same stands in your collection As much as everyone rags on ebay I get alot of cool stuff from there but lately I think my luck has run dry

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