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An intruder to the forum and a request......

Article about: Apologys for posting a Third Reich EK2 in the Imperial forum and I hope the Moderators can accept my reasons for posting it here..... Anyway, the cross pictured below was often referred to a

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    Default An intruder to the forum and a request......

    Apologys for posting a Third Reich EK2 in the Imperial forum and I hope the Moderators can accept my reasons for posting it here.....
    Anyway, the cross pictured below was often referred to as the 'intermixed' or 'half' Schinkel in the TR collecting community as it was believed to be a mix of styles between a Schinkel cross and a regular TR EK2.
    Recently it's been discovered to be Schinkel in its own right because its frame matches exactly to Imperial made crosses. Unfortunately no marked examples have turned up so we don't know who made them.
    My request is to anyone who owns an Imperial EK1 or 2 to check the frames against the example below to see if they match and more importantly, if you do find a match, to check if the cross is marked so we might be able to identify it to a maker.
    The inner corners of the frame are quite distinctive.
    Thank you all for your time.
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    AdrianC, not an intruder !...you are very welcome here !...I am sure we Imperial gents will help out, i'll start by checking my collection...get back to you soon.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Any chance of getting a close-up of the inner corners?

    My eyes arn't what they used to be
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Any chance of getting a close-up of the inner corners?
    Are these any good Greg? Not sure if they're any bigger than the original pics after you've clicked on them..........
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    Adrian, very distinctive inner corner beading....not quite a 'Juncker', I have checked my collection of crosses with a negative result, lets see if any of the other contributors have one...i'll be surprised if someone hasnt got one !
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Thanks for the bigger pics.

    I've just spent the last hour searching through my crosses and
    through the Imperial data base at that other forum. NO LUCK.
    I can't find a match.
    Last edited by Chopperman; 06-09-2010 at 04:20 AM.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Quote by oradour View Post
    Adrian, very distinctive inner corner beading....not quite a 'Juncker', I have checked my collection of crosses with a negative result, lets see if any of the other contributors have one...i'll be surprised if someone hasnt got one !
    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Thanks for the bigger pics.

    I've just spent the last hour searching through my crosses and
    through the Imperial data base at that other forum. NO LUCK.
    I can't find a match.
    Thanks for your efforts Steve and Greg.
    The only example I've see that matches is here

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    Adrian, having read that thread then looked at other examples scattered around the net, It does look like it could be a frame from K.A.G., apparently this maker made their own frames, but it is suggested they may of 'bought in' cores. Unfortunatly the maker K.A.G. is not known, only the mark.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Here is a scan of the corners of my maker marked KAG Ek1.
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    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    I'm not seeing a match.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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