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05-26-2018 10:56 AM
# ADS
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You are absolutely correct in thinking it is S-W. I can't count the
number of ebay listings I've seen where S-W was written as M-S.
gregM
Live to ride -- Ride to live
I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
myself around.
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Thanks Greg, I thought that was it.
Ken
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IMO not possible to definitive identify the maker on these pictures.
Anyway, KO is not Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin. According to current knowledge, KO is for Klein & Quenzer, Oberstein. No Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin existed during the WW1. Makers list on the begning of this thread is really not good source, it is out of date and full of errors. The only problem is, that nobody has made a better one - at least on English spoken fora.
Good source in German is here:
https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/de...r-kampfer.html
greetings
Tomasz
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tompress
IMO not possible to definitive identify the maker on these pictures.
Anyway, KO is not Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin. According to current knowledge, KO is for Klein & Quenzer, Oberstein. No Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin existed during the WW1. Makers list on the begning of this thread is really not good source, it is out of date and full of errors. The only problem is, that nobody has made a better one
- at least on English spoken fora.
Good source in German is here:
Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse 1914 fur Kampfer
greetings
Tomasz
Thank you for this valuable information Tomasz. I have checked the link out and I will use both lists in the future to aid in verifying my Imperial EK's.
I always learn something when on the forum and I thank everyone that helps me.
Ken
Last edited by Wilko; 05-30-2018 at 07:33 PM.
Reason: added more
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I thought after Tomasz was kind enough to link me into another list of Imperial EK makers I would do my very best to translate it here.
The following letter abbreviations can be assigned to certain manufacturers of the 1st class:
CD - Carl Dillenius, also with silver cancellation
AWS - A.Werner & Söhne, Berlin (no 2nd class)
Fri, FR, Fri within - Gebrüder Friedländer, Berlin
G - J. Godet & Sohn, Berlin or Glaser & Sohn, Dresden
KMST, KMSt., KMST, KM, KM, also with silver cancellation - Royal Mint Stuttgart
KO - Klein & Quenzer, Oberstein also with silver cancellation
PM - Paul Meybauer, Berlin (no 2nd class)
SW, S & W - Sy & Wagner, Berlin also with silver cancellation
we, We - J.H. Werner
WS, WS, W & S, WuS, JW, JW, JWS - all Joh .Wagner & Sohn, Berlin
manufacturer in 3.Reich marked with the LDO number eg L / 10, ..., L / 52 and similar .
The following letter abbreviations can also be assigned to certain manufacturers
D - Wilhelm Deumer, Lüdenscheid (possible also Deschler, Munich)
K, K in the frame - W. Kluge & Co.
N - C.E. Neuhaus & Sons, Berlin
R - E. Rosenthal & Sohn
S - Heinrich Schneider, Leipzig, also Schaper or Scharfenberg possible
WILM - H.J. Wilm, Berlin also with silver cancellation
Z - H. Ten, Berlin
E: W, EW - Emil Wiechmann
LW - Luis Werner
R.Sch. - Richard Schulze, Friedrichshagen
LV (with and without number) - Association for Iron Crosses
H - Hoffstätter Hoff, Bonn
M - B.H. Mayer, Pforzheim
MM - Meyle & Mayer, Pforzheim
A - (is assigned to the manufacturer F.A. Assmann
B - (possibly manufacturer Bury & Leonhard, Hanau)
The following are unknown
HB
HBG
HTB
KAG
KP
+ (M) + also with silver cancel
MEH
V
coat of arms with 3 circles
Y - silver stamp
square - (could also be a purchase hallmark)
Silver stamps used on the backs were:
Silver, 500, 750, 800, 835, 900, 925, 935, 938, 950, crescent with crown, crescent with crown and silver stamp eg 800
Here is the original site link - Page not found
I hope this complements the list at the beginning and is of some help.
Ken
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