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List of Imperial EK2 makers.

Article about: I have no idea if a list like this is already on the forum so apologies if it is and please delete if this is a duplicate. The following is the list of Imperial EK2 makers I work to (in a co

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    I have no idea if a list like this is already on the forum so apologies if it is and please delete if this is a duplicate.
    The following is the list of Imperial EK2 makers I work to (in a collecting sense). I'm sure there are a few amendments that could be made but I hope it is of use to you.

    Hersteller (Manufacturer)

    Marking Maker Location

    + Unknown Unknown
    A Assmann Lüdenscheid
    AP Unknown Unknown
    AWS A. Werner & Sohne Berlin
    B Unknown Unknown
    BD Unknown Unknown
    BD 800 Unknown Unknown
    C Unknown Unknown
    CD Unknown-Carl Dillenius? Unknown
    CD 800 Carl Dillenius Pforzheim
    CR Unknown Unknown
    D Unknown Unknown
    E Unknown Unknown
    ED Unknown Unknown
    EW Unknown Unknown
    F Unknown Unknown
    D.R.G.M. 653146 Paul Meybauer Berlin
    FO Friedrich Orth (?) Wien
    Fr Friedländer Berlin
    FR Frank & Reif Stuttgart
    FW Franz Xaver Wimmer München
    G Godet & Sohn Berlin
    GD Godet & Sohn Berlin
    H Paul Hossauer Berlin
    HB Unknown Unknown
    HB .800 Unknown Unknown
    HBG Unknown Unknown
    H.B.O. Unknown Unknown
    I Unknown Unknown
    IVI Unknown Unknown
    IW Iohann Wagner & Sohn Berlin
    J C. E. Junker Berlin
    JWS Johann Wagner & Sohne Berlin
    K Unknown Unknown
    K 800 Unknown Unknown
    K 5 Unknown Unknown
    K.A.G. Unknown Unknown
    KAW Unknown Unknown
    KC Unknown Unknown
    KD Unknown Unknown
    KM Königliche Muenzamt Stuttgart
    KM .800 Königliche Muenzamt Stuttgart
    KO Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin
    KO 800 Königliches Münzamt Orden Berlin
    KP Unknown Unknown
    L Unknown Unknown
    LM Unknown Unknown
    LV Unknown Unknown
    LV 26 Unknown Unknown
    LV 11 Unknown Unknown
    M Unknown Unknown
    M+ Unknown Unknown
    +M+ Unknown Unknown
    +M+O Unknown Unknown
    MEH Unknown Unknown
    MFH Unknown Unknown
    MM Unknown Unknown
    N Neun Rösner Sachsen
    O Unknown Unknown
    OSM Unknown Unknown
    P Unknown Unknown
    PH Paul Hossauer Berlin
    Pr Unknown Unknown
    PS Unknown Unknown
    PS 800 Unknown Unknown
    R Alfred Rösner Dresden
    R.SCH. Unknown Unknown
    RW Unknown Unknown
    S Heinrich Schneider (?), Schwartz (?), or Sedlazek (?) Dresden (Schneider)
    S-W Sy-Wagner Berlin
    S-W 950 Sy-Wagner Berlin
    T Unknown Unknown
    U Unknown Unknown
    V Unknown Unknown
    W Wagner Berlin
    Wa Wagner (?) Berlin
    we Unknown Unknown
    Wien Unknown Unknown
    Wilm H.R. Wilm Berlin
    Wilm 800 H.R. Wilm Berlin
    WMS Unknown Unknown
    WS Walter Schott Berlin
    W & S Wagner & Sohn Berlin
    Wu-S Wagner & Sohn (?) Berlin
    Y Unknown Unknown
    Z Possibly "Zeich" Berlin
    ZS Unknown Unknown


    Known Silver Content Marks on EK2

    SILBER
    Quarter moon with a crown and silver mark (usually .800)
    .500
    .750
    .800
    .835
    .900
    .925
    .935
    .938
    .950

    **EDIT**
    My apologies, I copied and pasted from my spread sheet and thought I had got the spacings correct before I posted but obviously not. I'll rectify this later.

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    thank you for this informtation adrian this will come in very handy

    tom

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    Good information, Adrian.

    There are unknown maker still being found on WWI EKII crosses.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Great Adrian. Thanks a lot. This will be very handy.
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    I saw this one for sale on a dealer's site and he states that the ring it's clearly marked ''LV2''.
    Unfortunately he doesn't include a photo of the mark.
    If anyone can confirm seeing before this mark then we can add it to the list?
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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Chris..it could be a miss struck "L V 26" or ......"L W", which is a known mark but unknown maker, this mark can be added to the list. I am loathed to recognise the mark "L V 2" unless more crosses or documented evidence turns up, See what the others have to say on the matter.
    More marks for Imperial EK's especially 1870 versions. Imperial Germany did not adopt the metric system until 1872, before that silver content on medals was marked as on silver coins, "LOTH","LOTHE" or "LOTIG" and a number to indicate a measurement of fine silver parts per 1000, each LOTH equals 62.5 parts silver and theoreticaly could go from 2 LOTH to 16 LOTH. Known markings are:-
    14 LOTH
    14 LOTHE
    14 LOTIG

    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    My list also shows

    LV 8
    LV 10
    LV 17
    LV 26
    LV 34
    LV 65
    LV 75
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Quote by oradour View Post
    Chris..it could be a miss struck "L V 26" or ......"L W", which is a known mark but unknown maker, this mark can be added to the list. I am loathed to recognise the mark "L V 2" unless more crosses or documented evidence turns up, See what the others have to say on the matter.
    More marks for Imperial EK's especially 1870 versions. Imperial Germany did not adopt the metric system until 1872, before that silver content on medals was marked as on silver coins, "LOTH","LOTHE" or "LOTIG" and a number to indicate a measurement of fine silver parts per 1000, each LOTH equals 62.5 parts silver and theoreticaly could go from 2 LOTH to 16 LOTH. Known markings are:-
    14 LOTH
    14 LOTHE
    14 LOTIG

    Prost ! Steve.
    I thought about the miss struck possibility of LV26 but the seller said it was clearly a LV2. Unfortunately i was a bit late and didn't get the cross. So i cannot support the seller's theory with confidence. Since no one else here has seen a mark LV2 your theory seems more correct Steve.
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Chris, my theory could be correct, but not watertight ! see gregs LV list, a "2" may very well exist, but is unknown at this time....if more start turning up, then you may of found a new known mark, but as of yet, unknown maker !
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Time will show mate
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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