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My Fleiger Badges.

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    Default My Flieger Badges.

    I have a small collection which I will post here. I started collecting them back in 1971 but along the way have been caught out with fake pieces, some that I recognise and I'm sure some that I don't. So would appreciate your input.

    This is a pretty standard Rayback badge, the only mark is what appears to be a square outline on the pin near the top.
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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

    This one was bought with the first at a Southerby's auction about twenty years ago.
    It is very unusual as it is Black coloured steel. it has been in an impact and is quite distorted.
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    Last edited by rudolph; 01-01-2012 at 08:45 AM.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

    This one is a cased CE Juncker badge that belonged to Kurt von Doering.
    The hook has been repaired at some stage.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

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    Last edited by rudolph; 01-01-2012 at 08:46 AM.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

    Now it gets difficult, Bavarian Flieger badges are much rarer.
    This Pilot's badge has a flat back and is hollow, of two piece construction but has no visible air hole and the hook looks suspect.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

    And the Bavarian Beobachter. It has a pierced crown and is unmarked. I'm sure this is genuine but there is an obvious problem, The enamel Signal Board is rotated 90 degrees! The fixing holes were either horizontal or vertical, so it looks like someone fitted the wrong Board, the enamel isn't of good quality and I suspect it is a replacement.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

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    Default Re: My Flieger Badges.

    And the Commemorative Pilot's Badge, one of the many fakes I think, thank you ebay!

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    Default Re: My Fleiger Badges.

    Other stuff: Beobechter Presentation cigarette case, just over 6" or 155mm long and made by JH WERHER, BERLIN in 800 silver.

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