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Opinions needed about this cased EKII wth document!!!!

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    Ok finally found some free time to take photos of the set.
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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Beautiful

    Reading the Vorläufiger Ausweis, I believe it was awarded to Infanterist (private) Englbert Maaskuber of the Landwehr (24th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Company). Can anyone identify what it says before "Inf. Reg." in the top left, it seems to starts with an 'R' and then an 'a' I think. Might it rather be an abbreviation for 'Reserve'? All this is probably obvious to most of the members, but I need to practice reading these handwritten certificates in German. So just correct me where I go wrong I have a LOT to learn about the Imperial German armed forces and their organization.

    - Kenneth

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    Beautiful

    Reading the Vorläufiger Ausweis, I believe it was awarded to Infanterist (private) Englbert Maaskuber of the Landwehr (24th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Company). Can anyone identify what it says before "Inf. Reg." in the top left, it seems to starts with an 'R' and then an 'a' I think. Might it rather be an abbreviation for 'Reserve'? All this is probably obvious to most of the members, but I need to practice reading these handwritten certificates in German. So just correct me where I go wrong I have a LOT to learn about the Imperial German armed forces and their organization.

    - Kenneth
    Hey Kenneth, can you read German? Very nice. This type of WWI period, German writing, is hard even for German to read. I forgot how it is called.
    By the way if anyone knows who is the maker it would be a great help. It looks like an exclamation mark (!). Very weird
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Quote by donkihotis7 View Post
    Hey Kenneth, can you read German? Very nice. This type of WWI period, German writing, is hard even for German to read. I forgot how it is called.
    By the way if anyone knows who is the maker it would be a great help. It looks like an exclamation mark (!). Very weird
    I read German fairly well yes. But reading period handwriting is as you say a challenge for us today. The important thing is to keep practicing reading different documents and then it gets easier every time. The handwriting on this one seems to be somewhat related to Sütterlinschrift, but it is much closer to modern writing than that and thus easier to read.

    - Kenneth

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    Mpravo. That's it, sutterlin. I couldn't remember it
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    This type of WWI period, German writing, is hard even for German to read. I forgot how it is called.
    donkihotis, this type of German writing is called "Sutterlinshrift" or "Sutterlin" for short, an old German cursive script developed in the 16th Century after the demise of Gothic script....very difficult to read, last taught in German schools between 1933-1941 ! Kenneth, the abrieviation is "Bay" for "Bayerisches" (Bavaria) not an "R", not a Landwehr unit either but a wartime raised Regiment, the "Königlich Bayerisches Infanterie Regiment Nr 24". Hope this helps.
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Hi Steve thanks for your help too
    Have you ever seen before this weird marking on the ring? Any known maker?
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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