Kevin.....both fake I am afraid, for a multitude of reasons, poor detail, look IMO to be possibly cast, wrong pin and catches. If you search the forum, you will find plenty of information and photographs on both badges, these should enable you to compare against these badges you show.
Prost ! Steve.
"The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)
as steve said there fake the sides show a small amount of flash courtesy of the cast
hi thanx for bad news ...regards kev