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Prinzen Zimmerman Ek1

Article about: This arrived just arrived in the mail. A Prinzen sized Ek1 made by Zimmerman. It measures 34.1mm x 34mm. (roughly 3/4 sized). Once upon a time it would have had a blued core but sadly the bl

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    This just arrived in the mail.

    A Prinzen sized Ek1 made by Zimmerman.
    It measures 34.1mm x 34mm. (roughly 3/4 sized). Once upon
    a time it would have had a blued core but sadly the bluing is pretty much gone.

    The reverse is marked with a 930 silver content stamp and the pin
    has been repaired / modified.
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    Prinzen Zimmerman Ek1  
    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Here it is compared to my full sized Zimmerman.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Prinzen Zimmerman Ek1  
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Nice one Greg,
    So what was the purpose of the Prinzen?
    Personal preference or worn when stepping out on the town?

    Semper Fi
    Phil

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    Very nice Greg! Congrats!
    If that is the one I am thinking of, I contemplated buying that one myself.
    He still has a couple of other nice crosses for sale.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Quote by AZPhil View Post
    Nice one Greg,
    So what was the purpose of the Prinzen?
    Personal preference or worn when stepping out on the town?

    Semper Fi
    Phil
    Thanks Phil.
    The story goes that the young German princes who were smaller in stature
    had Prinzen (hence the name) sized medals made so they could fit all of their
    awards on their small chests.

    Of coarse that is probably all sheep dip.

    Prinzen sized crosses could be privately purchased from a few of the bigger
    medal manufactures. They were a fashion statement. The smaller crosses
    were for the most part better quality than the standard awarded cross and
    were noticeably different. The buyer could show off how wealthy or cool
    he was.
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    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    If I may, my Prinzen screw back by Victoria. Quick photos.

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    Todd
    Former U.S. Army Tanker.
    "Best job I ever had."

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    Quote by rbminis View Post
    Very nice Greg! Congrats!
    If that is the one I am thinking of, I contemplated buying that one myself.
    He still has a couple of other nice crosses for sale.
    Ralph.
    Thank you Ralph.
    I threw out a lower price and he accepted. He is selling off a lot of his medals
    changing his collecting direction. Lucky for me because otherwise I could have
    never been able to afford a Prinzen 1st class.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Todd,
    What does it measure? I have never heard of a Prinzen sized Victoria.
    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    Todd,
    What does it measure? I have never heard of a Prinzen sized Victoria.
    Well... it's probably not as I just measured it for the first time right now. I bought it as a supposed Prinzen model... back in 1992 (!) from Alden Hamilton and never bothered with it.

    My calipers and good measuring stuff is out in the shop but the good old school ruler has it as nearly 41mm across by 40mm high.

    I grabbed my pin back Imperial EKI for comparison and it is 42mm x 42mm. AFAIK, Prinzen were supposed to be about 3/4 size, so mine doesn't fit that rule of thumb.

    Quick check and Emedals is describing a Prinzen they have as "35.23mm(width) x 39.61mm(height),"
    Todd
    Former U.S. Army Tanker.
    "Best job I ever had."

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    Most standard Imperial Eks were roughly 40 - 41mm. I have a few differnt prinzen
    cross and they range between 34mm to nearly 35mm.

    You still have a fine cross there. It's hard to find a Victoria made cross that
    has a readable makers mark. On most, the maker's mark is worn smooth.
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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