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Rifle casing, need help identifying the headstamp

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    Default Rifle casing, need help identifying the headstamp

    From what I've ascertained through google (lol), it's possibly german and from 1877. If anyone could point me toward some resources for making a definite identification, that would be wonderful!

    -Jennifer
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    Hmm, is there a different section this thread would be better suited for...?

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    Hi, Jennifer. Welcome to the Forum.........!

    20 people have looked at it so far, but it may be outside their area
    of collecting or firearms knowledge. This old cartridge has an
    'internal primer' which is rather unusual.

    It certainly looks like 1877 to me. Perhaps you might provide
    details of where it was found and an idea of it's size.

    Someone will see it who may be able tell you more.
    Last edited by Walkwolf; 10-28-2011 at 06:27 AM.
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    You didn`t give any measurements of the case,military headstamps don`t tell us much.So we need length of the case,size of the neck,width of the rim, OK?
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Measurements! Didn't realize that was important! xD

    it's about 5.5cm in length, and the diameter at the opening is about 11-12mm

    I don't know what "size of the neck" means, I'll have to do some more googling I spose before I can provide that...

    It was found on an archaeological dig, in a rockshelter in eastern Africa. If it's from the late 1800's it would line up nicely with a German occupation of our study area.

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    It sounds like a 11.4x50Rmm Austrian cartridge used in the model 73 Werndl rifle. Or it could be an 11.15x60Rmm Mauser.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Could the 'D' then stand for 'Dreyese'.........?
    Regards,


    Steve.

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