some medals i've been offered

[lightyone]

hi guys,

I need some opinions on the following medals:
the first one a ek second class with 25 year jubilee spange marked: ce junker berlin sw.
the second one a ek first class marked: kac
the third one a pilot badge.

thanks for the info!

greetings eddy

[Vegard T]

I'm not good with WW1 medals and such, but these medals just don't look right.

[Redgemak]

Just my two bits, but the iron cros has 2 different crowns, the front and the back are different, seems odd to me.
The letters in the back of the EKI seems modern.

Jean

[airwarrior]

the metal looks wrong to me too shiny looks like was made this afternoon!

[airwarrior]

dont think the crowns are very well detailed either.

[jaba1914]

not a pilot badge an "Erinnerungsabzeichen" for pilots/observer and air gunnar and a modern copy.

Regards Alex

[oradour]

Eddy, again all bad, these and the other three previously shown are probably Baltic states/Polish copies......the EK I is trying to be a "KAG" marked piece, but instead its mark ends up looking like "KAC" !....a load of KAC ! Where are these up for sale ?
Prost ! Steve.

[Walkwolf]

The initials 'KAG' look like they were done on a pantograph machine
and cut into the surface, not stamped. This makers mark is usually
seen on the pin. Nasty looking EKII, as Jean above says............!

Steve (Oradour) is correct.

[lightyone]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the comments! Steve, these where not on any site for sale, i've been offered these by a friend of mine. He didn't know if these where copies, he bought them many years ago. So thanks again for all the comments i know now to stay away from these badges!

greetings,
Eddy

[Chopperman]

I have no expetice on flight badges so I won't comment on it.

I can say that the 1914 Ek1 is fake. The 1870 Ek2 is fake as is the 1914 spange and the oakleaves. SORRY.

KAG crosses had a complete different style pin and were never marked like that. That particular
style was seen making it's way through ebay a few years ago. Some with the KAG mark and the
eagle stamp and others with only one or the other mark. BTW--you will never see an original
cross with that eagle stamp on it either.

The 1870 is a well known fake commonly called the "muffin" crown fake. These been floating around
for 10 years or so. They can be seen with all sorts of different types of attachments and with many
different makers marks.