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    Hello! This is my first forum post, and I would like to take the opportunity to ask what you guys can tell me about the uniform in this picture? It is my great grandfather in the first world war. I honestly have no clue what he is wearing.
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    Naix, welcome to the forum !..great photograph, I would imagine taken prior to embarking to the front, as it was common for soldiers at home prior to going off to the front to wear a garland or single flower placed somewhere on their uniform, usually from a loved one, this is a posed studio photograph, and was probably made into a postcard.....your Grandfather wears the Model 1907/10 field grey 'waffenrock mit klappkragen' (tunic with fold down collar) note the Brandenburg cuff, a vertical panel with three buttons, (worn mostly by infantry regiments, there were other styles of cuff design),the tunic would of been piped in bright red around the collar, down the front, around the cuffs and around the rear vent/skirt flaps. and matching Model 1907 'tuchhose' (trousers) these would be piped in bright red down the outside of the leg, along with Model 1866 'Infantrie-stiefel' (marching boots). He is wearing the Model 1907/10 field grey 'Feldmutze' (field cap), at first I thought the cap band was black (which would denote Artillery, Pioneer or other specialist branch), but I know believe it to be be bright red for infantry, (red also shows up in b/w as a dark colour),he is wearing the Reich cockade on the top and the Prussian landes cockade below on the red band. I have blown up to various magnification the shoulder straps as they have a number embroidered upon them, I believe them to be ' 165 ' (I'll stand corrected if anyone can make them out to be anything other) which if it is '165', will be for '5 Hannoversches Infantrie-Regt 165 (Quedlingburg, II Bn Blankenburg) IV Armee Korps, in other words, 5th Hannoverian, Infantry Regiment 165, garrisonned at Quedlingburg, 2nd Battalion garrisoned at Blankenburg, part of 4th Army Corps. Would this regimental information tally with the area in Germany your great grandfather/family came from ?.....The shoulder strap numbers would be in bright red, and the straps would of been piped in the colour of the Army Corps, which in the case of the 4th Army Corps were,..... yes you've guessed, bright red !....... Hope this has helped.
    Last edited by oradour; 07-15-2010 at 07:47 PM.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Well, this certainly helped a lot! Much appreciated! The only thing is, it does not make sense for him to be part of a Hanover infantry regiment, seeing as how he was always living in Bad Honnef (near Bonn) according to my mother. I am certainly shocked at the amount of information you have managed to pull out of this photograph, at most I expected just the branch of service! Thank you so much for your effort! Although, perhaps the 165 might be wrong, and another number?

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    Naix, thanks for the extra information. I and a fellow collector have studed the shoulderstrap again under magnification....and conclude that coupled with the Bad Honnef (near Bonn) home address of your great grand father that the straps show '160', not as first thought '165'.
    '' 9.Rheinisches Infantrie-Regt Nr 160 (Bonn. I Bn Diez, II Bn Euskirchen) IX Armee Korps. '' that is the ''9th Rhein Infantry Regiment Number 160, garrisonned at Bonn. 1st Battalion at Diez, 2nd Battalion at Euskirchen. part of the 9th Army Corps.
    This Regiment recruited from mainly in the lower Rhine region/province.
    During WW1 it marched thro Luxemburg, Belgium and France being involved in the first battle of the Marne. In 1916 it was heavily involved in the battle of the Somme, taking heavy casualties. Later that year it served a short spell on the Eastern front. 1918 saw the regiment in 'Operation Micheal' the German spring offensive, and after that involved in the defensive battles of the Oise-Aisne, and Meuse-Argonne. The regiment was last reported by Allied inteligence as being in the line, west of Ornes.
    Hope this has cleared up the previous post, and assists you in finding where and when your Great Grandfather served in the Great War.
    Prost !....Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Thank you for the information, really helped out a lot! You are quite the expert so it seems in these matters

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    Great work as always, Steve ................ !
    Regards,


    Steve.

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