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ww1 1884/98 saw back Bayonet

Article about: hello, Im looking to buy this bayonet but I need to be sure its ww1, not ww2. Im usually pretty good with bayonets but the ww1 1884/98 and ww2 K98 bayonet I've ever learned the difference ye

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    Default ww1 1884/98 saw back Bayonet

    hello, Im looking to buy this bayonet but I need to be sure its ww1, not ww2. Im usually pretty good with bayonets but the ww1 1884/98 and ww2 K98 bayonet I've ever learned the difference yet.

    Can anybody help me out and ID the model of this bayonet? that would e greatly appreciated.

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    This is a WW1 s98/05 bayonet that has been shortened. Presumably the hooked quillon has also been removed. It is highly likely this is a Turkish conversion of the 1920's, who commonly shortened WW1 german bayonets, but I could not be certain that it was not done by a German soldier during WW1.

    There would originally have been a date mark on the back edge of the blade, near the hilt, so you should be able to see exactly how old it is. Here is one of mine dated 1916.

    Edit, I notice that as well as no quillon it also has a muzzle ring, which has been added, so I'm very confident this is Turkish conversion but I will be interested to hear other opinions.
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    Very obvious Turkish conversion with those serials on the crossguard. A pound to apenny says the date on the blade spine is 1917...

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    The frog button on the scabbard is typical Turk too.

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    I'm looking for help in identifying this bayonet
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    U.S. model 1917.
    gregM
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    Its a U.S. M17 bayonet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_bayonet of the type supplied to the Home Guard in Britain- I suspect the leather frog is the British Home Guard type.

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    Could you tell Me how's value that bayonet. I wonder to keep it in my collection

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    I dont know which country you are in, but I would of thought in this condition maybe 60-70 in Britain. Many members here don't like to give values because its difficult and subjective- you should be able to find examples for sale and get a good idea from that. However, it is a common bayonet and the value isnt high.

    Doug

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