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ww1 german, russian, french or........... shovel?

Article about: Hello friends, Here I'm again to search for your help.I have this shovel , I buyed it 3 or 4 years ago in a market near Rome.I think it's the Linnemann type, may be ww1 but there aren't mark

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    Hello friends,

    Here I'm again to search for your help.I have this shovel , I buyed it 3 or 4 years ago in a market near Rome.I think it's the Linnemann type, may be ww1 but there aren't marks.
    So I can't say if it's german, french, russian, belgian bulgarian.....I have noticed that its ''ears'' are flat and not riveted or bent.....is this a sign that can help us to recognize it?
    Waiting for your support I thank you for your helpfullness and Always excuse me for my Scholastic english.
    Gabriele
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    Does anybody have an idea?

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    some markings?

    maybe austrian ww1 ......

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    No markings my friend.....I have two Austrian shovel and they have ''ears'' bent, markings and they are not rectangular but pointed .......May be a variant?

    Anyway thank you for your helpfullness

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    Since it is riveted and not spot-welded, it is not WWII German. But there are plenty of photos out there showing WWII German soldiers using shovels just like this one. The Germans used lots of different captured shovels.

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    Thank you M422A1.So we have clear that it may be used in WW2 but it's WW1. ''The circle narrows''...... can we say that is WW1...but German?
    I think that the ears so flat ( i haven't seen ''in person'' or on Internet...but may be due to my ignorance) can tell us a lot.Anyway Thank you again my friend.

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    I think it is ww1, but not german. maybe romanian or other smaller country, that is copied german shovel

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    why not.....It's a right suspect....thank you my friend. Consider that the shovel has a profile very flat that may be you can't see in photo.

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    IMO it could be of Austro-Hungarian origin, I had one, mine was stamped "Linnemann 1917" .
    Prost ! Steve.
    "The German Army is the perfectly adapted, perfectly running Machine. The difference is that the Germans are organised with a view to War...with the cold, hard, practical and business-like purpose of winning victories."
    G.W. Steevens - The Daily Mail (1897)

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    Thank you Steve, beautiful!I have two other that are different ( markings tell me that they are Austrian)....so this is another austro hungarian in collection....different from the Others I have......Thank you again.

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