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That WWI German & occasional Austrian Trench Knife Thread

Article about: Hi guys, My latest trench knife :-) ERN mm and imperial stamped . The complete knife is in fair to good condition, with some rust pitting on the blade :-/ Unfortunately the tip is broken ! I

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    This is an amazing thread! Wow!

    And it reminds me that I have a knife to post later.

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    Quote by militariaone View Post
    Greetings all,

    As the post’s title says, this is another example of the (many available) private purchase fixable trench knife variants to come out during the war. This example is actually beefy enough to serve as a bayonet without being overly fragile (as many similar examples appear). The unmarked blade’s length is 157mm. Until next week and I hope your collection is going well too!

    Regards,

    Lance

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    A very nice example Lance!
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Quote by M14sRock View Post
    This is an amazing thread! Wow!

    And it reminds me that I have a knife to post later.
    Post away, brother!

    Regards,

    Lance

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    Ok, please forgive my photographic ability. I am not drunk, nor do I have Parkinsons. I just suck at taking pics of things.

    Here are two that I like.

    I have had the British dagger for about 15 years and picked it up in a local gun store for the princely sum of $10. IIRC it dates from the late 1800s and is in excellent shape. The stag is nice and tight and has no cracks.

    Next is the one I referenced above. Picked it up last month along with a pile of other knives. My Google-Fu is worse than my photographic ability and I have come up blank trying to find out what it is, so I am hoping someone here can tell me about it.









    The Schneider, A Geneve looks like the quillion was blued originally as there are traces of the bluing left. It's blade is 127mm long and shiny.

    The British blade is 117mm long-ish.

    Anyone have any idea what this dagger might be?

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    Quote by M14sRock View Post
    Ok, please forgive my photographic ability. I am not drunk, nor do I have Parkinsons. I just suck at taking pics of things.

    Here are two that I like.

    I have had the British dagger for about 15 years and picked it up in a local gun store for the princely sum of $10. IIRC it dates from the late 1800s and is in excellent shape. The stag is nice and tight and has no cracks.

    Next is the one I referenced above. Picked it up last month along with a pile of other knives. My Google-Fu is worse than my photographic ability and I have come up blank trying to find out what it is, so I am hoping someone here can tell me about it.

    The Schneider, A Geneve looks like the quillion was blued originally as there are traces of the bluing left. It's blade is 127mm long and shiny.

    The British blade is 117mm long-ish.

    Anyone have any idea what this dagger might be?
    Greetings M14sRock,

    Ummmmnn, er, ahhh… you did note this thread’s subject matter correct? I suppose it is my fault for encouraging you to “post away!’ but I assumed you were going to add something in the spirit/theme of the thread. I guess the take away is be careful of what you wish for eh?

    OK, now that, that is out of the way your British Bowie appears (as you have surmised) circa 1885 see this post about dating that particular knife company’s markings here I*XL Wostenholm markings. .

    On the Schneider knife, obviously a knife from Switzerland, however like you I found little info to an A. Schneider, but did find mentions of a C.F. Schneider a knife making firm from Geneva too. My assumption (and that’s all it is) is A. Schneider may have been the retailer for the knife and that the knife may have been made by another firm for re-sale by A. Schneider. I'd recommend posting the knife here Bernard Levine's Knife Collecting & Identification and I’m quite sure the Bowie specialist there will shortly inform you of the specifics on your Swiss Bowie.

    If you possess any WWI Central Powers’ knives you wish to post/share on this thread please do so, but please hold off on adding further “other” categories of knives. There’s plenty of room on the forum for separate or stand-alone posts about them.

    Regards,

    Lance
    Last edited by militariaone; 06-15-2014 at 12:47 AM.

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    Quote by militariaone View Post
    Greetings M14sRock,

    Ummmmnn, er, ahhh… you did note this thread’s subject matter correct? I suppose it is my fault for encouraging you to “post away!’ but I assumed you were going to add something in the spirit/theme of the thread. I guess the take away is be careful of what you wish for eh?

    OK, now that, that is out of the way your British Bowie appears (as you have surmised) circa 1885 see this post about dating that particular knife company’s markings here I*XL Wostenholm markings. .

    On the Schneider knife, obviously a knife from Switzerland, however like you I found little info to an A. Schneider, but did find mentions of a C.F. Schneider a knife making firm from Geneva too. My assumption (and that’s all it is) is A. Schneider may have been the retailer for the knife and that the knife may have been made by another firm for re-sale by A. Schneider. I'd recommend posting the knife here Bernard Levine's Knife Collecting & Identification and I’m quite sure the Bowie specialist there will shortly inform you of the specifics on your Swiss Bowie.

    If you possess any WWI Central Powers’ knives you wish to post/share on this thread please do so, but please hold off on adding further “other” categories of knives. There’s plenty of room on the forum for separate or stand-alone posts about them.

    Regards,

    Lance
    Thanks, Lance. After looking at some of the knives in this thread, the Schneider looked to be similar enough to post. And the Brit was right next to it so got tossed in the pic. My bad.

    Thanks for the link to Mr. Levine's. Much appreciated.

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    Default A few more Austrian Sturmmesser Model 1917 Photographs

    Greetings all,

    A few more of shots of Austrian and one Italian (the top right close up) Soldiers with Austrian Sturmmesser Model 1917s.

    Njoy,

    Lance

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    Good evening,

    I've been lurking on this forum and particularly this thread for quite a while now. I decided to jump in and show a piece of my humble collection (I have only been collecting since November last year).

    I really enjoy seeing pieces of other collections so keep up the good work and keep on amazing me!

    Best regards,

    Sven

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    Greetings all,

    This week (for a change) a cautionary tale (yes, mine), when a poor assumption meets with what one expects to see. As an example, here’s a “Louper” made hunting knife with a 150mm long blade. While it appears to possess much of the pre-WWI hunting knives’ characteristics, such as the scabbard’s construction, blade’s shape, and a metal handle crafted to appear as horn… the reality is the Louper company did not exist in the German Imperial era. The company according to W. Darrin Weaver’s, An Encyclopedia of German Tradenames and Trademarks 1900-1945: Firearms, Optics, Edged Weapons (Atglen, PA; Schiffer Publishing Ltd, 2011) made knives “during the Nazi era.” Once again, possessing the right reference materials keeps the new or old collector informed. Check out this week’s period picture and you will view just how close this particular knife comes to looking WWI period correct. So, if you see a “Louper” made knife being offered as a WWI specimen… now you know that is not possible. Fortunately, it was not an overly expensive lesson… and now one you do not have to make yourself.

    Regards,

    Lance

    P.S. here’s the link to the book I have referenced, I would recommend getting a copy sooner rather than later before they go out of print and then prices go through the roof (no, I have no link with its author). An Encyclopedia of German Tradenames and Trademarks 1900-1945: Firearms, Optics, Edged Weapons: W. Darrin Weaver: 9780764337598: Amazon.com: Books

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    Greetings all,

    Far be it for me to keep a fool and his money from being separated, but I cannot help myself in this case. Be advised eBay item 271533221980 purports to be a genuine EB2 Robert Klaas marked variant (I’m still searching for one) anywho, when I looked at the Kissing Storks’ trademark it looked more like a WWII version than an Imperial one (see post #22 for examples of this type on this thread). On closer inspection/comparison with two genuine Imperial examples one from Williams, R. L. (2010). The Collector's Book of German Bayonets 1680-1945 Part Two. South Witham: Roy L. Williams (Top Left) and another from fellow forum member “Adler” (Top Right) the differences between the eBay auction’s variant and the two genuine examples becomes quite apparent. The Red arrows indicate the bogus marked eBay offering... caveat emptor! There I just saved you some potential crazy money, probably about time to turn your name pink eh?

    UPDATE: It sold for $676.66, slightly more than half an original's worth.

    UPDATE: #II Now it is again for sale from the same seller as the completed eBay's auction on eGun as Artikel-ID: 5013226 Noooooo, doesn't seem shady at all

    UDATE #III It ostensibly sold on eGun for 254,00 EUR, but it is now back on eBay as item 311037576774. Either the seller has multiple examples of this “rare” bayo/knife, or he is shill bidding to create a false interest. BEWARE!!!

    Regards,

    Lance

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