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    Hello!

    I don't typically collect much German stuff but these came along together at reasonable prices so I took the chance after some reading up on here and trying my best to compare to originals.

    The NSDAP badge is M 1/62 and the bronze Infanterie Sturmabzeichen is unmarked with a bent pin and some oxidation to the reverse. Any feedback is appreciated on these two!

    Thank you,
    Johannes

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    Hello Johannes

    The Infanterie Sturmabzeichen is an original and has been attributed to the firm of Juncker. Collectors did (and some still do) refer to this one as the "slim stalk" variant.

    These zinc examples are often found with a brassy colored undercoating over the base material before the finish was applied. At the base of the 2L leaf and on the ribbon bow there seams to be a light colored substance remaining in the crevices. There is also light grayish patches on the reverse. Is this residual silver finish with the undercoating giving the appearance of a bronze grade?

    It is difficult to tell due to the small pics; try posting your HD pics or scans in the 1100-1400 pixel range. This will help greatly in making a determination.

    I am not familiar with the attributes of party badges.

    Best Regards, fischer

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    Hi Johannes, we have a sub forum devoted to the NSDAP membership badge.

    NSDAP Parteiabzeichen forum at War relics forum

    Please post it there. Thanks.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Both original items! nice job!

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    Thank you gentlemen for your replies and assessments!

    As requested, here are larger photos of the Infanterie Sturmabzeichen. I'll post the party badge in the appropriate section later today- thank you Ade for the direction!

    Cheers,
    Johannes

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    Hi Johannes

    This one is difficult to determine. The bronze looks good but there is some type of grayish residual color on the left side of the wreath. The reverse shows patches of it as well?

    I am not sure if it is a bronze grade or a silver that has been cleaned of all the silver wash.

    Here is an example I have that illustrates the what I was initially referring to.
    As you can see it is a silver grade with a brassy, bronze colored undercoating over the base zinc material.

    With time, these silver examples begin to turn a golden hue and IMO begin to resemble bronze grades.
    If all the silver were removed, I would be inclined to think my example is a bronze grade.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Best Regards, fischer

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    Hi Johannes

    This one is difficult to determine. The bronze looks good but there is some type of grayish residual color on the left side of the wreath. The reverse shows patches of it as well?

    I am not sure if it is a bronze grade or a silver that has been cleaned of all the silver wash.

    Here is an example I have that illustrates the what I was initially referring to.
    As you can see it is a silver grade with a brassy, bronze colored undercoating over the base zinc material.

    With time, these silver examples begin to turn a golden hue and IMO begin to resemble bronze grades.
    If all the silver were removed, I would be inclined to think my example is a bronze grade.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Best Regards, fischer

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    Sure does, and excellent example you've posted! I am not sure then if mine is bronze or worn silver. Would better photos of the tarnished lower wreath help? I appreciate the discussion!
    -Johannes

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