Help determin originality - 2 different Infanterie Sturmabzeichen in Silber.

[Korgossen]

Can you please help me with opinion about originality, facts and perhaps other thing you might know about those two Infantry assault badge in Silver? Is it nice pieces, average or perhaps bad?

[militarymania]

i like the first one,but i do not like the second ones hinge placement nor the style of clasp at the bottom..

[Anubis]

First one is a good zinc by unknown maker called as "cut out". Second one is a fake based on a Mayer IMO.

[Adrian]

I agree with the above, the first one is good but I'm unsure of the second. János has better knowledge of these badges than me so if he thinks it's a fake it most likely is. Hopefully Fischer will give his thoughts too.

[Anubis]

My problem with the second one is the hinge, different from textbook Mayer's, but I see no more differences.

[Korgossen]

Thanks alot! But you feel pretty sure that the other one is a fake? Then I going to take it right away out of my collection

[Anubis]

Wait for fischer's opinion.

[Korgossen]

will do, thanks!

[fischer]

Hello

The first ISA is an unknown maker referred to by collectors as the Missing Leaf / Cut Out. The catch has been replaced.

The second is attributed to the BHMayer firm. These have been highly faked and worn zinc examples like this always make me nervous. The catch looks good and the hinge looks like the type used on Tombak examples. I also think it has been reattached at some point.

That being said I am leaning toward original...Do you know the weight?

Best Regards, fischer

[Korgossen]

Thanks alot Fischer! The weight of the first, missing leaf (what does it mean?) is 24 grams and the other one BHMayer is 14 plus/minus some gram maby. Is that good or bad?