Royal marine badge ?

**kradman** · 08-30-2015, 02:46 PM

Another badge that came in from the Rubbish tip , The text looks to be the same as used by the Royal marines but i cant find a badge like this

**harryamb2** · 08-30-2015, 08:01 PM

it's not a RM badge.

**Ubique** · 08-31-2015, 02:42 AM

Intriguing badge. You may need a specialist badge forum like the British and Commonwealth Military Badge Forum?
Let us know if you find out.
Oz.

**kradman** · 08-31-2015, 07:01 AM

Thank you i will try to look more into what the badge is

**jwp** · 08-31-2015, 07:41 AM

wonder if it is some type of swwetheart badge ? the motto is the royal marines, by sea, by land.
John.

**Watchdog** · 08-31-2015, 12:27 PM

I have no idea what this is but I might make an educated guess as it were.
Although it likely has a military (specifically RM) connection I doubt it is military per se. More likely a souvenir or maybe a club / association badge. If it were a unit / qualification badge the symbolism would be definate even if a little nebulous rather than the generic nature of flag / crown / motto that we see here. The type of crown and the overall construction suggest any time from around WWI right up to 1953 but I would think the early part of that period is more likely.

It is an interesting item in its own right and I would love to know what it is but I think the best chance s if someone sees it and says "I know what that is"!

Regards

Mark
PS The motto of Clan Donald is Per mare per terram which means the same.

**jwp** · 08-31-2015, 07:17 PM

by Watchdog

I have no idea what this is but I might make an educated guess as it were.
Although it likely has a military (specifically RM) connection I doubt it is military per se. More likely a souvenir or maybe a club / association badge. If it were a unit / qualification badge the symbolism would be definate even if a little nebulous rather than the generic nature of flag / crown / motto that we see here. The type of crown and the overall construction suggest any time from around WWI right up to 1953 but I would think the early part of that period is more li

It is an interesting item in its own right and I would love to know what it is but I think the best chance s if someone sees it and says "I know what that is"!

Regards

Mark
PS The motto of Clan Donald is Per mare per terras which means the same.

you are quite right and the clan McDonald badge also features the belt design too, but would a clan badge include the union flag ?, just my thoughts,
all the best,
John.

**Jerry B** · 08-31-2015, 10:04 PM

It is a lovely badge and I wish I could say what it is but sadly I cannot. I would agree that it probably dates to the earlier part of the period in which this type of crown was used. Many of the late Victorian badges included a belt surrounding the central area as part of the design which also helps support an early 20th century date for it.