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    Default Some British Cap Badges for Review

    Hi,

    I purchased these badges from the same source in London I purchased the RAF badge. They was near inexpensive, but I'd like to know if they are original WWII periode done or re-strikes.

    1 - RAOC

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    2 - Tyneside Irish

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    3 - R.E.M.E. Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers

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    4 - Royal Pioneer Corps

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    5 - 8th battalion West Yorkshire Regiment PWO

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    6 - Carnavonshire Volunteer Regiment

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    7 - RASC

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    8 - Army Cyclist Corps

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    9 - South Staffordshire Regiment

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    10 - RAMC

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    11 - RAMC

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    12 - RAOC

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    13 - Army Catering Corps

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    Thanks in advance.

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    The vast majority look fine.

    But I would be a little wary of the Tyneside Irish. Maker marks on the slider fitting (which slots into the cap) are found with maker marks on fakes more often than on originals. That is not to dismiss maker marks, just something to consider.

    The other I would get checked out more is the WW1 Carnavonshire Volunteer Regiment badge. I imagine this is a scarce badge? Being a Welsh Regt Jerry B may know more?

    The REME badge is the new version issued post war, around 1947/1948.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Hello
    about Gaunt maker mark:
    J.R. Gaunt Badge Manufacturer
    cordially
    Didier

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    I agree with Ade, volunteer badges are always worth expert apraisal as re-strikes abound. I am also not sure about the ACC badge I think you should have an experienced collector look at it "in hand". The all brass construction is correct for WWII (post war the central brazier became a white metal applique piece) but the strike detail does not look as sharp as I would like and the metal is a little bright for a wartime badge. This could of course be the picture and it could be a perfectly good badge which is why I suggest having it checked "in hand".

    I have attached pics of a post war bi-metal type to show what I mean about detail. Typically the strikes did not suddenly get better after the war and this is an important recognition factor albeit not definative alone.

    I hope this helps

    Regards

    MarkClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote by Watchdog View Post
    I agree with Ade, volunteer badges are always worth expert apraisal as re-strikes abound. I am also not sure about the ACC badge I think you should have an experienced collector look at it "in hand". The all brass construction is correct for WWII (post war the central brazier became a white metal applique piece) but the strike detail does not look as sharp as I would like and the metal is a little bright for a wartime badge. This could of course be the picture and it could be a perfectly good badge which is why I suggest having it checked "in hand".

    I have attached pics of a post war bi-metal type to show what I mean about detail. Typically the strikes did not suddenly get better after the war and this is an important recognition factor albeit not definative alone.

    I hope this helps

    Regards

    Mark
    Hi Mark,

    I think perhaps you're correct in your observations, I suspect about this badge too because, like you can see in pictures, it looks much more new in hands than others in this group.

    Best Regards,

    Ricardo

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    The vast majority look fine.

    But I would be a little wary of the Tyneside Irish. Maker marks on the slider fitting (which slots into the cap) are found with maker marks on fakes more often than on originals. That is not to dismiss maker marks, just something to consider.

    The other I would get checked out more is the WW1 Carnavonshire Volunteer Regiment badge. I imagine this is a scarce badge? Being a Welsh Regt Jerry B may know more?

    The REME badge is the new version issued post war, around 1947/1948.

    Cheers, Ade.
    Thank You Adrian.

    Best Regards,

    Ricardo

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    Quote by bichon View Post
    Hello
    about Gaunt maker mark:
    J.R. Gaunt Badge Manufacturer
    cordially
    Didier
    You're correct, J.R. Gaunt did some fine USAAF wings during WWII too.

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    But the question here is: Is it a periode done badge or a re-strike with a fake J.R. Gaunt MM?

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    Hello RR
    is your Gaunt 15 or 11 mm ?
    the Gaunt with a dot mark is suspect.....
    all british badges have been copied
    cordially
    Didier

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    Quote by bichon View Post
    Hello RR
    is your Gaunt 15 or 11 mm ?
    the Gaunt with a dot mark is suspect.....
    all british badges have been copied
    cordially
    Didier
    Hi Didier,

    I think you're talking about the MM size, it's 15mm.

    Best Regards,

    Ricardo

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    it's a copy !

    Didier

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