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Article about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwd7IcY9KA A1E1 Independent a waste of time and energy?......

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwd7IcY9KA

    A1E1 Independent a waste of time and energy?......
    It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.



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    Agreed !
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    This emphasises the importance of a properly thought out "Statement of Requirement" before even attempting the design process!

    Makes one appreciate modern computer aided design software.

    To be fair I suppose the motivation was there and at least the failure was recognised befor any more than the initial prototype were built.

    Definately a good teaching piece to be preserved.

    I think lessons were learned (eventually) but probably not really effectively until the Centurion came along.

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Quote by Watchdog View Post
    This emphasises the importance of a properly thought out "Statement of Requirement" before even attempting the design process!

    Makes one appreciate modern computer aided design software.

    To be fair I suppose the motivation was there and at least the failure was recognised befor any more than the initial prototype were built.

    Definately a good teaching piece to be preserved.

    I think lessons were learned (eventually) but probably not really effectively until the Centurion came along.

    Mark
    Well put!...
    It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.



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    wasn't something like this built by the Russians?.

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    Quote by harryamb2 View Post
    wasn't something like this built by the Russians?.
    Indeed Harry there were two,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-35
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    Also by the Germans as a handful of prototypes that did see very limited use-the 'new construction vehicle' (a code name cover)-also designated as Panzer Mk V until the Panther appeared-the Independent wasn't a waste-look at what constituted a tank at the time-either war surplus WW1 vehicles or slight improvements on the Renault FT17 2 man types-this was an attempt to modernise the concept with a type that was much faster and more mobile and with an all round revolving turret for the main armament-MG sub turrets were a feature of larger British tanks well into WW2 with the Crusader as the last one to have it. Having an AA weapon was also very innovative-you didn't see turret top pintle mounts for that purpose until the late 1930s. Remember also that there was very little being spent on R and D anywhere in the world at the time just after the 'War to end all wars'.

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