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Japanese helmet: Civil defense?

Article about: Dear all, May I ask you about your opinions of this helmet please? It's a civil defense helmet? It's authentic? Any information are wellcome. With best wishes alter musketier

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    Dear all,

    May I ask you about your opinions of this helmet please? It's a civil defense helmet? It's authentic? Any information are wellcome.

    With best wishes
    alter musketier

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    In memory of my father who was in K-Einsatz, combat engagement, with the RAD in the Alps in 1945, of my grandfather who was with the IR 87 during campaign in France in 1940 and of my grand-uncle who served in the Gardegrenadierregiment Nr. 3 "Königin Elisabeth" and who was killed in action at Craonne, Chemin des Dames in France in 1917

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    Very Nice Civil Defense helmet! the small tabs with holes are to secure neck protection.Regards,Geoff
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    Dear Geoff,

    Thank you very much for your information. What a wonderful mannequin! I am right that there are Japanese signs on the neck protection? It's an inscription?

    With best wishes
    alter musketier
    In memory of my father who was in K-Einsatz, combat engagement, with the RAD in the Alps in 1945, of my grandfather who was with the IR 87 during campaign in France in 1940 and of my grand-uncle who served in the Gardegrenadierregiment Nr. 3 "Königin Elisabeth" and who was killed in action at Craonne, Chemin des Dames in France in 1917

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    You are correct alter musketier from what I understand the Kanji are a Japanese surname "Takeuchi" (Thanks to ghp95134 for translation) which may be the name of the individual or possibly the leader of the unit.
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    Quote by Geoff Ward View Post
    ...from what I understand the Kanji are a Japanese surname "Takeuchi" (Thanks to ghp95134 for translation) which may be the name of the individual or possibly the leader of the unit.
    Geoff, can you post a photo with the full kanji? Just looking at what is visible in the above image, it does not look like 竹内 Takeuchi to me now. I can see the uchi portion .... but can't make out the other. The kanji look silk-screened, so I doubt it is the leader's name; and since it has "*内" twice leads me to believe it is a shop name (did they do that????) or something similar.

    Interesting ..... interesting indeed.

    --Guy

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    D'OH!!!!


    BRAINSTORM!

    means "inner" -- so that the neck-protector is not put on upside-down!!!!! Just coincidence it is part of the Takeuchi name 竹内 [meaning "Within the Bamboo"]

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    That brings up a question I have had for a while...Why bother marking the flap unless it was because the outside made a difference to the wearer? as in one side of the material being protected by some type of fire retardant.Is there any evidence that the were fire retardant chemicals used in the manufacture of Civil Defense items? Regards,Geoff
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    Nice helmet and interesting information!
    I have a similar one in my collection, I show it for comparison:

    Japanese civil defense helmet

    Cheers
    Roberto

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    Quote by Geoff Ward View Post
    That brings up a question I have had for a while...Why bother marking the flap unless it was because the outside made a difference to the wearer? as in one side of the material being protected by some type of fire retardant. Is there any evidence that the were fire retardant chemicals used in the manufacture of Civil Defense items? Regards,Geoff
    Aha ....
    竹内
    Takeuchi / Take-no-uchi -- depending on the family.

    Hmmmmmm.....

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    Quote by Geoff Ward View Post
    That brings up a question I have had for a while...Why bother marking the flap unless it was because the outside made a difference to the wearer? as in one side of the material being protected by some type of fire retardant.Is there any evidence that the were fire retardant chemicals used in the manufacture of Civil Defense items? Regards,Geoff
    Geoff, I think there are fire retardant properties used and I would hazard a guess at asbestos fiber. When I saw the fire damage on my fire helmet I took a closer because it surprised me that they were small burns on a cloth cover that I would have expected it to have gone up in flames. It certainly has an asbestos feel to it.
    Japanese civilian fire helmet

    Nice helmet, a type I'm looking to add to my collection.
    Steve.

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