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Rare shipboard IJN helmet

Article about: This is a rare shipboard grey IJN helmet that I recently picked up. The badge looks original to the helmet. It was painted in the classic blue grey shipboard coloration, but later received a

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    This is a rare shipboard grey IJN helmet that I recently picked up. The badge looks original to the helmet. It was painted in the classic blue grey shipboard coloration, but later received a dark grey coat of paint that partially covered the badge. I would describe it as a dark gunmetal grey. Undoubtedly period done, the paint shows the patina and wear one hopes to see. The liner is missing two pads, but the remaining one is the correct Navy pad with horsehair stuffing. I presume that the chinstrap is original to the helmet. It looks to have been there forever and also seems to be complete. There is a marking inside the helmet, but I do not know what it says. Almost looks like a kanji numeral. I have been wanting a shipboard lid for a while, and I couldn't resist when I saw this one.

    Has anyone seen similar lids with this dark grey overpaint?

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    Love the helmet and part liner and strap . As far as the overpaint is concerned , as you say , it looks to have been applied in the period . You are probably aware of the subject of Black "night " camo painted helmets and i'm thinking this is something in a similar vein . Thanks for showing it .
    REGARDS AL

    We are the Pilgrims , master, we shall go
    Always a little further : it may be
    Beyond that last blue mountain barred with snow
    Across that angry or that glimmering sea...

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    Has anyone seen this color on an IJN helmet before? It really isn't black, but close to it. I had a black IJA helmet once, that was allegedly brought back from Saipan, but sold it unfortunately. It was REALLY black. This one isn't.

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    I have corresponding with a noted expert on Japanese helmets, and he tells me he has one almost exactly like this one.

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    Any chance of pics of the other helmet please ?
    REGARDS AL

    We are the Pilgrims , master, we shall go
    Always a little further : it may be
    Beyond that last blue mountain barred with snow
    Across that angry or that glimmering sea...

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    I am working on it. Will need permission from the collector first. He is not on the forums.

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    I cannot post his pictures here, unfortunately. That helmet is actually black. I have only seen two other IJN black shipboard helmets besides this one, both in private expert collections so I cannot share pictures, unfortunately. Some people think that black IJA helmets are postwar vintage. I think not. Certainly black IJN helmets were used during the war, perhaps on board ships. Someone said that this kind of paint might have been used to prevent rust. Perhaps, but I doubt that is the entire story.

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