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Can anyone help me identify this type 98's numerical attributes?

Article about: That frog is dangerous looks too good. Nice information Sleepwalker again that frog needs posted in a fake section some where. timothy

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    Default Can anyone help me identify this type 98's numerical attributes?

    I acquired this WW2 German Army bayonet this past weekend. Searching the internet the best id I can make is a M1884/98III Riveted Grip.(Plastic Grips). It possibly was made in 1944 by Horster & Co. in Solingen.

    Can anyone help in identifying the various numbers shown on the knife and scabbard most of which I guess to be possibly production run or inspector numbers.

    I am especially interested in the picture with "3370" and a stylized "V" with what appears to be a two pronged fork design on the upper right part of the "V". Could this be a maker's mark vice an inspector's mark and if a maker's mark who is the manufacturer?
    Tnx

    John
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    You may find some info here, k98 bayonets data and registry

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    Hello W4 looks like you acquired to nice K98 Bayonets......and member Mpnox provided a very resourceful list of makers and dates....if there are still questions the seasoned bayonet collectors will help you out with further information.
    The bayo frogs may need a second opinion as Im not sure of their construction..if it is German related. Have patience and I will keep your thread at the top until someone answers your questions which will be shortly. Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

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    I'm seeing a 1941 date on the bayonet from the pics. It is a mis-match set.
    '4824' is the scabbard serial number. '3370' is the serial of the bayonet.
    The 'v' is it's production range - after 10,000 bayonets were produced,
    the letter 'a' was added, and so on.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Walkwolf is correct in every thing original 84/98 mismatched bayonet and scabbard but having said that they are often found that way scabbards got mixed around. I have a lot of them. Frog looks good. bayonet maker is next to the 41 date I can't make it out could be ASW All in all nice set. timothy

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    It's not a riveted example as these are rare and sort after! it's missing the screw nut, well looks to be, need a shot of the other side. Here's one of my early wood grip missing the nut
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    Quote by reneblacky View Post
    It's not a riveted example as these are rare and sort after! it's missing the screw nut, well looks to be, need a shot of the otherside
    I agree,it`s a 41asw and the nuts are missing from the handle screws.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Nothing to really add for the bayonet, but I'm not 100% on board for the frog and will need to do some checking. Having a vague recollection of some frogs from India(?) with a reasonably good simulation of the marking, but bad rivets and leather that was not quite right. Fred

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    Hello,

    yes the frog is a fake / copy

    Regards

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    the scabbard is a yugoslavian rework, because of the number on the frog stud.... may be the bayonet too

    the number for example means: 3370 v - 41 asw = the 223.370 example out of 1941 from the maker E & F Hörster Solingen for the Waffenamt Kontrakt

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