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Article about: For myself it's not an area of extensive specialization, but I tend to agree with some of the statements also having some concerns where it does not look like I think it should to a reasonab

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    For myself it's not an area of extensive specialization, but I tend to agree with some of the statements also having some concerns where it does not look like I think it should to a reasonable degree of certainty. And one that IMO could be explored to make a better determination. Not necessarily in order - with the first being the scabbard (as was mentioned) which IMO should be leather with metal fittings. The frog which to me looks more like a standard size service frog instead of a smaller dress type. The knot(?) which perhaps Sleepwalker can identify. And the blade's TM (also mentioned) which to me seems to be a little later than I think it should be for a Weimar piece. And as for previous discussions I remember some of them - but am 'drawing a blank' (ie: no immediate recollection) of this particular one at the moment - but a high end fake is not something that I'm ruling out at the moment given the things that seem to be out of sync. Best Regards, Fred

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    Let's look a little rivets.
    They look newer than the rest parts of the bayonet.
    Usually it should be the other way around, unless rivets are aluminum.

    Regards
    Vedran

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    The clamshell guard pommel rivets and badge are all non magnetic, the badge is quite loose to the touch.

    z4

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    Can you upload some more photos of rivets?
    From which material are made​​? (Judging by the photos, it looks like nickle plated, but base material?)

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    Vedran

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    Hope these picture are good enough I only have a ipad.

    z4.
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    For me definitely look newer, than the rest of the bayonet handle.
    It also worries me stag fit.
    Bayonet blade, looks like later Horster dress one:

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    That's my opinion, I do not intend to offend anyone.

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    Vedran

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    Just out of lazy curiosity, just how much Do these Weimar clamshells Sell for, that someone would go through an enormous amount of trouble to make a fake one? Are they really Worth that kind of money?
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    I would say that it is partial frankenstein bayonet.
    Otherwise prices of originals range about 1500 - 2000USD.

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    Vedran
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    I have been looking on the net to see if I can find any others that match this one but no luck yet.

    z4

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    First my apologies to Fred....it has been a long time since I have seen this particular bayonet and thread..and that long ago thread on the GDC had since disappeared...when their file system crashed a few years ago...losing many threads from the beginning days of that site.
    Below are 3 logo variants Horster used ( GDC photo ) on their dress bayonets.

    also included is another bayo with a Police wreath used ..and the pommel enhancing is very different that the one above. I am curious of the crest placed on the grip of the Horster bayonet. has this been seen before..and if it has ..is it consistent with other crests. Regards Larry
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