Yes, the Fischer manufactured 1938 dated German Police chemically impregnated-canvas backpiece/leather frogs were what I first thought of when the topic of substitutes because of leather shortages was under discussion. Fischer being well known to German Police collectors as a maker of pistol holsters, as were some others in the Berlin area, with that being where my thinking was going.
As for what to call it, in general arms collecting by many of those who use the English language terms like experimental often refers to a “proof of concept” type of item. Versus a “trials” item that is made in sufficient quantity to be field tested before adoption and/or modification for general issue. So I’m thinking that perhaps in German that “ersatz” might be more appropriate?
My reasoning being that these radiator-hose like material frogs that still have a strong chemical smell are fairly unique:
1) there is no central line of stitching either long or short
2) as manufactured they have no rivets at all
3) were manufactured as far as I know only in 1941 by that one maker
4) Unlike various Fischer items, there was no branching out into holsters etc. that I could find. Or being on some of the lists of documented leather products makers - for both holsters and the makers in a most admittedly limited search I made for that particular Berlin maker I did not find other types of examples. Best Regards, Fred
Last edited by Larry C; 08-31-2016 at 11:01 AM.
08-31-2016 06:48 AM