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Pioneer Dress Bayonet E. Pack & Söhne Solingen

Article about: I recently purchased pioneer dress bayonet E. Pack & Söhne Solingen. But it seems thet these bayonet was reworked. Bakelite grip have traces of rough finishing, and the grip nuts, are on

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    Quote by Sleepwalker View Post
    This bayonet never was a pioneer bayonet... an the name in the origin never exist... this modern creation is nonsense and fiction... it is always better to inform objectively.
    The only correct information-sources are the original sources and the trader catalogs.

    The Extra-Seitengewehre exist with 3 Hilt-forms... an 2 Bladeforms... + the option the edge the blade... all this can be mixed...

    Example:

    Militaria Fundforum

    Militaria Fundforum

    Militaria Fundforum

    Militaria Fundforum

    Max Weyersberg Solingen - Militaria Fundforum


    the only differences are the numbers in ordering the item by the local trader....

    A pioneer dress bayonet never existed...

    I think we all agree on that! Just like there is no 98k bayonet, it is an 84/98, yet everyone knows it as a 98k. No one is disputing that.

    Jim

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    Quote by Rancid66 View Post
    I suggest you read the topic again a couple of times.

    "I never written that such dress bayonet pattern, was used by pioneering genus of solider.
    Name a "pioneer" is a collector slang, which make difernce - "ordinary" dress bayonets."

    I hope that your re-reading will be successful.

    Regards
    Vedran
    Yes agree that term has been used for years by collectors to distinguish from regular KS98 Wheeler points this out in his book. timothy

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    I found another example of E-pack dress bayonet, with a reverse grip screw. (Nuts are identical.)
    Does maybe someone knows, something about them?
    TR period period, or the smaller series?

    Thank you in advance.

    Regards
    Vedran
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    Pack made two types with and without spanners and they were made in mid 30s

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    Great group of blades stingray. I notice by your avatar and bayo's that you may have a passion for Pack blades. Do you have any idea on the timeline of Pack trademarks as I seem to remember them having around a dozen?

    Jim

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    My question was:

    I found another example, of E-pack dress bayonet, with a reverse side of grip screw. (Nuts are identical.)
    Does someone knows, some INFO about them?
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    E-pack dress bayonet, with normal side of screws:

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    E-pack dress bayonet, with reverse side of screws:

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    Regards
    Vedran

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    Quote by Rancid66 View Post
    My question was:

    I found another example, of E-pack dress bayonet, with a reverse side of grip screw. (Nuts are identical.)
    Does someone knows, some INFO about them?
    TR period period, or the smaller series?

    E-pack dress bayonet, with normal side of screws:

    Regards
    Vedran
    You want to know if the screw-bolts were installed reversed originally and on purpose for a certain period of time?

    Jim

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    Yep, like i was stated in my first post.
    There is also a difference in the screw, between the normal E-pack dress bayonet, and the one with revers screw.

    Regards
    Vedran
    Last edited by Rancid66; 04-09-2014 at 05:56 PM.

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    I seem to remember something about Wayne Techet saying that some of the unconventional "Pack" dress bayonets (Extra-Seitengewehre) were suspected of being period subcontracted to another maker - but having the "Pack" logo. Best Regards, Fred

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    Fred maybe. (Hvala for INFO.)
    Grip fitting looks very good.
    (Even better than the E-pack standard, which at this point to be flawed.)
    Bolts are quite old.
    Grip on my dress bayonet are bakelite - fingers / smell test is ok.

    Regards
    Vedran
    Last edited by Rancid66; 04-10-2014 at 06:14 AM.

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