S 84/98 Manufacturer Codes (98k bayonet) Quick Reference WWII era
While this is not new information to current collectors, I thought it would be a handy onsite reference and open the door of information to those just getting started in the hobby. I hope that it will benefit this forum and make it a little easier for the "new guy's". This was part of my on-line databank that is no longer available and I would like to see it put to good use once again.
Thanks frog prince for all the help!
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An introduction to the 98k courtesy of frog prince.He has been of tremendous help in this area of the databank.Thanks F.P.
This topic is centered around German combat bayonets. Which means they went onto the ends of rifles. And were meant to be actually used as weapons in combat if necessary as contrasted with dress bayonets which were only for show.
During and prior to World War II German military forces used a number of different combat bayonets. Recycled from earlier times, captured, converted, and those made for them in countries occupied by their forces. This segment deals with the largest group of bayonets which was the standard Seitengewehr (sidearm) 84/98, which is commonly known by English speaking collectors as the 98K bayonet.
The 98K falls in some natural groupings based on the who they were made for and the period when they were made. There are the so-called “commercial” bayonets not made under the control of the German Army’s Heereswaffenamt which means they lack the inspection/acceptance stamps (called Waffenamts by collector's) and most often dates/serial numbers. And the military issue bayonets which are set them apart having of course the Waffenamts, serial numbers, dates, and if not maker named the Fertigungskennzeichen (Manufacturers/factory identification markings) including both the “S” codes or the much later letter codes.
With early high polish rust blued bayonets of both belonging to the first group. And another slightly later group still with the high polish, but dip blued, bayonets. Followed gradually by those which ere not as well finished or had manufacturing changes present. And finally the late or later bayonets which were not polished having tool marks, some with different finishes, etc. being the last group. For many collectors the high polish bayonets are often considered early, with the ones following them considered the larger middle group, with the late bayonets usually separated from the middle group by the more drastic manufacturing shortcuts.
As might be expected not everyone sees things the same way but for most practical purposes the 98K’s can be separated into military and commercial and early, middle, and late with some of the in-between examples open to discussion depending on your perspective.
Soon after Hitlers rise to power,the German war machine started to rearm.In the interest of keeping the identities of the manufacturers secret,the S-codes were implemented.This was very effective as it is only recently that all 17 of the S-codes have been identified.The bayonets of this group show outstanding workmanship.All bayo's of this group have the waffenamt(military accceptance stamp)stamped on them,usually twice on the pommel,once on the bottom of the crossguard,on the spine of the blade and handle.1934-35 bayo's had wooden grip scales and the date was shown in code on the spine of the blade."K" for 1934 and "G" for 1935.It is also worthy of note that from 34-35 there were only 12 manufacturers.From 1936-37 the last 2 digits of the year were stamped into the spine instead of the letter code.
S/155 = E.u.F. Hörster, Solingen
S/172 = Carl Eickhorn, Solingen
S/173 = Alexander Coppel GmbH, Solingen
S/174 = WKC, Solingen
S/175 = F.W. Höller, Solingen
S/176 = Paul Weyersberg u. Co., Solingen
S/177 = Ernst Pack u. Söhne, Solingen
S/178 = Gebr. Heller GmbH, Marienthal
S/184 = J. Corts, Remscheid
S/185 = Elite Diamant AG., Siegmar-Schönau
S/238 = Dürkoppwerke AG. Bielefeld
S/239 = Richard Herder, Solingen
S/240 = F. Herder Söhne, Solingen
S/241 = Clemen u. Jung, Solingen
S/242 = Solinger Axt u. Hauerfabrik, Solingen-Ohligs
S/244 = Mundlos AG., Magdeburg
S/245 = Jetter u. Scherer, Tuttlingen
Last edited by Larry C; 02-16-2014 at 04:13 AM.
02-16-2014 12:01 AM
1937-40 (makers name)
From 1937 on,Germany really started to push on rearmament with no regard to the treaty of Versailles.The name of the manufacturer,of which there were 18 at this time,was stamped right onto the ricasso with the last two numbers of the year stamped on the spine of the blade near the handle.These bayonets had bakelite or wood handles,flashguard,waffenamts,and serial numbers matched bayonet to scabbard at time of issue. Bayonets of this group are usually of the highest quality.
1940-1945 (letter codes)
Now that the war was in full swing,the need to protect the identity of arms manufacturers was again present.This time a lettered coding system was devised with each of the 18 manufacturers at this time getting their own specific letter designations.The biggest difference in theses bayonets,other than the coding system,is the lack of quality in their finishes,especially after 1942.The final polishing step was skipped and they went straight to bluing or,in some instances,phosphate finishing.The bakelite grips also started to vary in color and texture,with some manufacturers actually switching to wood and back to bakelite.In 1944 some manufacturers even switched to rivets instead of the normal grip screws.These manufacturers were asw,cyl,and sgx.
1)ab = Mundlos AG,Magdeburg Nord
2)agv = Berg&Co,Soligen-Ohligs
3)asw = E&F Horster,Solingen
4)bym = Gennosenschafts Machinen haus der Buchsenmacher,Austria
5)can = August Wallmeyer,Thuringen
6)clc = Richard Abr Herder,Solingen
7)cof = Carl Eickhorn,Solingen
8)cqh = Clemen und Jung,Solingen
9)crs = Paul Weyersburg und Co,Solingen
10)cul = Ernst Pack und Sohne,Solingen
11)cvl = Weyersberg,Kirschbaum and Co better known as WKC, Solingen
12)ddl = Remscheider Hobelmesserfabrik Josua Corts Sohn,Remscheid
13)dot = Waffenwerk Brunn AG,werk Brunn,Czechoslovakia
14)ffc = Friedrich Abr. Herber und Sohn,Solingen
15)fnj = Alexander Coppel GmbH better known as Alcoso,Solingen
16)fze = F.W. Holler,Solingen
17)i = Elite Diamantwerk,Siegmar-Schonau bei Chemnitz
18)jwh = Manufacture Nationale or Staatliche Waffenfabrik, Chatellerault France
19)pyy = Berg&Co,Solingen
Last edited by Larry C; 07-30-2016 at 02:43 PM.
Great work Jim and Fred working together on this ... I will pin this to the top of the forum. Regards Larry
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